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NordicNorm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip Smith wrote:
As to a British cornet sound, watch, listen and read the words as my Dad plays his Eterna many years ago. He is British and knows cornet!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hgHFHvhfcT8


Wow! Impressive playing. Thanks for sharing!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should also try the Sparx cornet mouthpieces. You might like the “*” series or the “B” series. You will have to ask Ted Sparx about the “*” series as it is not on his website. They are sized between the “B” (also called Soloist) sizes and the larger Standard (single numbers) series.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had just clicked on the youtube link when my wife walked down to make oatmeal. She stopped making oatmeal when she heard the video, walked over, and said, "What a beautiful tone! Who is that?" When I told her, she remarked, "I should have known!"

I just had put away my little silver Besson 10-10 with the Sparx mouthpiece, so I guess that is the reason she was awake before dawn. It is going to be a good day!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, to close off this thread, the cornet I bought off eBay arrived today.

Turned out it was a YCR2301ii, and not a YCR2301.

When I told the seller I wanted to return it, he offered to refund 50% of the price.

I figure for $75 it's worth it. At least for the short term.

Thanks to everyone who weighed in on this topic!

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip Smith wrote:
I have played my Getzen Eterna 800 since the mid 1970s. I still love it today. Any instrument responds to what you put into it. As to a British cornet sound, watch, listen and read the words as my Dad plays his Eterna many years ago. He is British and knows cornet!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hgHFHvhfcT8

Wow playing the same horn 45 years is truly impressive. I have played 30 cornets, a Strad trumpet and an Eterna Trumpet. in the last almost 3 years. I always looked for that "perfect" horn several times I "thought" I found it. I really didn't like my Capri Cornet. I really liked a 1909 Conn Perfected Wonder, my 1914 York Improved Perfect, Several Committees, And then I found a King Master in amazing shape (valves). I thought .."finally". But then I found an almost "New in the Box" Conn 36A Concert Grand. I now have officially stopped looking. It will likely be the one forever (I'm 73)

Just saying, I am happy for you liking a horn over that time. Congrats!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mpc that came with this cornet is a Yamaha 11C4-7C.

Since I play on a Bach 7B on my Bb trumpet, I’m wondering if having a similar size cornet mpc will make me sound too ‘trumpety’ on the cornet?

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2021 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick update. I have added a Bach Strad ML 184 cornet with the Shepperd's Crook to my lineup. I've paired it with a Sparx 4 mouthpiece, which I find very comfortable.

I play mostly orchestral parts on the cornet (2nd or 3rd), although I do play in a BBB-style band one weekend a year at a British Pavilion that celebrates all things British. We usually get sandwiched between the Beatles and Who cover bands.

At first I found the Strad more 'stuffy' to play (compared to the Yamaha) but I eventually came to the realization that I was over-blowing. Once I backed off, it became much easier to blow and the core of my sound really opened up.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad its working out fof you. Based partiallly on Dale's advice, I pulled the trigger on a 184G sight unseen and am quite happy with it. But, as you are learning, you can't bully it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your valve alignments (especially in the up position) on the Bach 184. I bought my 184 used, and the valves had felts in them that were way too thin. The local tech checked them and installed felts over twice as thick to align the ports and that really opened the horn up.
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