• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Olds with No Model?



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Horns
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
PNut
Veteran Member


Joined: 08 Apr 2021
Posts: 114
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:31 pm    Post subject: Olds with No Model? Reply with quote

What kind of Olds trumpet is this? The model isn't on the bell. It just says underneath, "Elkart, Ind. USA".

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZdN8Ne5AZhfQ2iNe6
_________________
Gotta Love Music
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SatchmoGillespie
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 1806
Location: Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably an NA-10M. Is there anything on the receiver? These horns are just Olds In Name Only.
_________________
Jim New S5 M and MS with C Backbore
Del Quadro Grizzly
Stomvi USA Bb
Getzen Severinsen
Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
OldSchoolEuph
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 07 Apr 2012
Posts: 2426

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't really tell much from the close-cropped photo, but I suspect based on the description that it is a modern stencil Olds from NMEC, built by Blessing before they were sold and shut down.
_________________
Ron Berndt
www.trumpet-history.com

2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
1975 Olds Recording R-20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
A.N.A.Mendez
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Posts: 5225
Location: ca.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made by Blessing. Student junk.... (I bought one to test). Stick with vintage CA. Olds....
_________________
"There is no necessity for deadly strife" A. Lincoln 1860

☛ "No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up" Lily Tomlin☚
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PNut
Veteran Member


Joined: 08 Apr 2021
Posts: 114
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SatchmoGillespie wrote:
It's probably an NA-10M. Is there anything on the receiver? These horns are just Olds In Name Only.



Yes, I can barely make it out from the other photo. What a waste of a good name. Then some folk get suckered into thinking the serial number is in the late 60's. The Wild West of trumpets. Sigh.
_________________
Gotta Love Music
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
royjohn
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 12 Jan 2005
Posts: 2272
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee

PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't resist the play on words:

"If it isn't old, it isn't Olds"

Seriously, who, if anyone, owns the name now? There are so many great old Olds trumpets, why fool with this new stuff/junk? And, while Olds are priced up there, there are other vintage trumpets about as good which are not. King Liberty, Holton Revelation, 45 and 48 and others, Bueschers, old Blessings, etc. Various French and English Besson trumpets...Salvation Army horns...and so on. Do a little research and play a few horns...see what works.
_________________
royjohn
Trumpets: 1928 Holton Llewellyn Model, 1957 Holton 51LB, 2010 Custom C by Bill Jones, 2011 Custom D/Eb by Bill Jones
Flugels: 1975 Olds Superstar, 1970's Elkhardt, 1970's Getzen 4 valve
Cornet: 1970's Yamaha YCR-233S . . . and others . . .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Crazy Finn
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 27 Dec 2001
Posts: 8331
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SatchmoGillespie wrote:
It's probably an NA-10M. Is there anything on the receiver? These horns are just Olds In Name Only.

OldSchoolEuph wrote:
I can't really tell much from the close-cropped photo, but I suspect based on the description that it is a modern stencil Olds from NMEC, built by Blessing before they were sold and shut down.

This.

I think I mentioned the Olds stencil horns when you asked about a similar Reynolds. This is one. The barely readable Elkhart IND means it was probably made by Blessing. Could be worse, but it's a Blessing Scholastic with an Olds label.

royjohn wrote:
I can't resist the play on words:

"If it isn't old, it isn't Olds"

Seriously, who, if anyone, owns the name now?


Some outfit in NJ.
_________________
LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
OldSchoolEuph
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 07 Apr 2012
Posts: 2426

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

royjohn wrote:
Seriously, who, if anyone, owns the name now?

National Educational Music Company, Inc. 1181 US HIGHWAY 22 MOUNTAINSIDE, NJ 07092
_________________
Ron Berndt
www.trumpet-history.com

2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
1975 Olds Recording R-20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Horns All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group