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El.Vitor
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to the trumpet in question:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/143431479047738/permalink/4317180865006091/
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

El.Vitor wrote:
Here's a link to the trumpet in question:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/143431479047738/permalink/4317180865006091/


Like the OP horn, this also has a remarkable number of Holton, or Holton-copy parts in it. It could easily have been made by Frank in the 1920s as a stencil for Wards. The "extender" is a variation on the sequential/nested tuning slide concept patented by Boston's Henry Esbach in the 1880s. It allows for quickly changing the main tuning from Bb to A and back, while preserving the set of the outer tuning slide for pitch center.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all so fascinating! Do you think that contacting the good folks at Holton would brandish more information on said horn?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

El.Vitor wrote:
This is all so fascinating! Do you think that contacting the good folks at Holton would brandish more information on said horn?


Holton was shut down at the end of 2007 by Conn-Selmer. All of the records, instruments, etc. went in dumpsters - a lot of which was rescued from those dumpsters by the University of South Dakota's National Music Museum program. Unfortunately, they do not have any catalog of what they got. I don't know if much in the way of production records and business contracts survives (I know I would not have prioritized that when looking at newsletters, catalogs, engineering drawings and prototype instruments by the truck-load)
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2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
1975 Olds Recording R-20
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately I only live about a 30 minute drive away from the NMM. I'll have to get in contact with them or visit them one of these days, unfortunately they're currently undergoing expansion construction and won't be open until next summer i believe. But I'll keep searching for more information in the meantime, thank you so much for all of your insight and wisdom!
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