Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz

annvill · Veteran Member Joined: 16 Oct 2020 Posts: 155

Hi, this mouthpiece suffers a little on the low notes. I was wondering if with the study it is possible to develop a greater sound on the low notes.

etc-etc · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6177

Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz is not an overly shallow mouthpiece (neither is Shew Lead). Yet, low range can be played with either of the two. Relaxing the embouchure a little can help with the projection.

annvill · Veteran Member Joined: 16 Oct 2020 Posts: 155

Yes it is very similar to the Bach 3c, but it sounds softer, easier on the high notes, but suffers on the low notes. At least that's what I feel.

cheiden · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:06 am Post subject:

I'm not thrilled by the sound I get in the lower register with either a stock Bach 3C or the Yamaha Shew Jazz. That's why I went with a hybrid solution.
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HERMOKIWI · Heavyweight Member Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 2581

What mouthpiece do you play on which you can produce solid and vibrant low notes? That would certainly give us clues to what you need.
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annvill · Veteran Member Joined: 16 Oct 2020 Posts: 155

I've always played on Bach 3c. Occasionally on DW american classic 5c. Both seem to me to have deeper low notes.

etc-etc · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6177

Try to roll in the embouchure to decrease lip incursion into shallower mouthpiece.

EdMann · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:47 pm Post subject:

The Shew Jazz, which I used to play for years, is essentially a Bach 3C with a rounder rim and perhaps a slightly tighter back bore. That might be what you're feeling. Relaxation is likely the key.... to everything!

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StephenVannevel · Regular Member Joined: 02 Dec 2016 Posts: 20

The Bobby Shew Jazz is identical to a Bach 3C. It is possible the bite is too soft for you.
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etc-etc · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6177

Perhaps a 5C would work? It is a little deeper than 3C and has a sharper bite. See in Kanstul Mouthpiece Comparator 2.0:
http://kanstul.com/MPcompare/MouthpieceComparator.html

jadickson · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:31 am Post subject:

It may be too shallow FOR YOU, which depends on your lip size / shape / embouchure.

Try a Curry 3C.

I struggle to get a good full sound on my low notes with the Shew or even a modern Bach 3C. Not so with the Curry 3C. Slightly deeper, different shaped cup.

I hope this helps.
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Andy Cooper · Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 am Post subject:

You might want to check the mouthpiece "gap". If you are not familiar with that term, just Google trumpet mouthpiece gap. Lots of stuff.

annvill · Veteran Member Joined: 16 Oct 2020 Posts: 155

Honestly, the story of the GAP is too complicated for me.

Brent · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:45 am Post subject: Shew

People seem to really like that mouthpiece, or not like it at all. I'm personally of the latter.
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BraeGrimes · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:37 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't go messing around with gap adjustment etc before you truly know whether you like the mouthpiece. If it doesn't feel right in a particular register or dynamic level, I would suggest either trying other mouthpieces (which, of course, comes at a cost) or trying to find ways to make it feel better through practice. Personally, I didn't land on a mouthpiece until about 5/6 years ago after around 10 years of constantly changing. It's a journey, not a race!

picctpt33 · Regular Member Joined: 07 Aug 2019 Posts: 96

I agree with Brae - don’t mess with the gap just yet

Andy Cooper · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:21 pm Post subject:

The reason I suggested checking your gap first is that too much gap can leave you with a weaker low register. If the gap is OK, then move on to other things.

Bill Ortiz · Heavyweight Member Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 904

I agree with Andy-adusting the gap has a big influence on how the lower and upper register respond, as well as over all resonance in tone. Sometimes perceptions on how a mouthpiece or horn play are actually due to improper gap. I understand that it's opening a new can of worms but in my experience it's a worthy consideration. If you are going to experiment with the gap, get a copy of the mouthpiece that you're currently playing and get that one fitted for sleeves-that way you can always go back to your original setup. Good luck :)
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StephenVannevel · Regular Member Joined: 02 Dec 2016 Posts: 20

Also if you do end up going the sleeve route, do yourself a favor and get the Frost threaded ones, they don't have an o-ring to deaden the sound.
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