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jokera39 New Member
Joined: 19 Sep 2018 Posts: 6 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:00 pm Post subject: Second time |
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I played trumpet when I was 16-24 years.After that I was too busy in my work to have time to keep suitable embouchure.So I stopped playing.Pause,when not played trumpet was very long, maybe too long? Now Iḿ going retired and and have time and willing to start to play again in my own fun. My range is trash! If in this forum are peoples who had started playing after many years and have some tips what to do, I will gratefully take advices how to start. Iḿ not searching some kind of shortcuts, because I believe itś not aviable.
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 2020 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Only a 12 year break here but my main advice is get a teacher and start slow, no, SLOW.
If you can only play for ten minutes initially, do just that. As soon as something feels uneasy, stop. Take a break, a real break, then go back. Practicing three times ten minutes a day will get you more progress than overdoing something.
Don’t push your range, start in the low and middle register. _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
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GeorgeB Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Apr 2016 Posts: 1063 Location: New Glasgow, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:00 am Post subject: |
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I came back after a 50 year hiatus at the age of 79. It wasn't easy, but I took it slow and easy and day by day it all came back to me and after 6 months i was playing first trumpet with a local band. The secret is, don't kill yourself. Easy and slow is the way to go.
I had a good foundation thanks to a music conservatory and a top local pro player and played for 12 years with my own band. I didn't need a teacher but a fellow trumpet player helped me over some humps so a teacher won't hurt if the going is too tough.
I practice fundamentals an hour every morning and play an hour of tunes every afternoon to keep my chops in good playing condition. I turn 85 this month.
George _________________ GeorgeB
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2016 Manchester Brass Custom
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1942 Buescher 400 Bb trumpet
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 1990 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Welcome back to trumpet playing! If at all possible, take some lessons. That can help you get off to a good start With your embouchure and avoid many frustrations.
A teacher can also help you put together a good practice routine: What material to practice, how to practice it, and when to do so.
If it is impossible for you to study with a teacher, Harold "Pappy" Mitchell's "Mitchell on Trumpet" is the best comprehensive method I have come across. Not as useful as working with a teacher, but it offers a series of 84 progressive lessons that go from the absolute beginner level to the very advanced level.
Good luck, and have fun! |
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deleted_user_687c31b New Member
Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Brassnose wrote: | Only a 12 year break here but my main advice is get a teacher and start slow, no, SLOW.
If you can only play for ten minutes initially, do just that. As soon as something feels uneasy, stop. Take a break, a real break, then go back. Practicing three times ten minutes a day will get you more progress than overdoing something.
Don’t push your range, start in the low and middle register. |
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3274 Location: Endwell NY USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:35 am Post subject: |
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In addition to the earlier good advice, I suggest you take the time to think about your embouchure to make sure you're 'doing it right', and NOT using improper techniques that you acquired earlier.
A good teacher who can analyze and comment on your technique would be a great way to start - might only take one session unless serious corrections are needed.
My basic thoughts about embouchure are here -
http://users.hancock.net/jkosta/Embouchure_Basic_Concepts.htm _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5675 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Find a performance outlet. It's hard to maintain a regular practice regimen if you don't have an end goal for what you're doing with it - there has to be something that inspires you and drives you to practice and improve.
I actually struggle with that these days. My day job is completely unrelated to music, and I have a lot of other irons in the fire that are also non-music related, so I find myself at times going weeks without picking up the horn. I'm in that boat right now. The National Guard band I'm in played a concert on July 5th, we culminated our 2 weeks of annual active training the next day, and I haven't touched the horn since.
Fortunately I have a couple of gigs coming up in a couple of weeks, so I'll be back on the horn today trying to get it going again. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Posts: 1541 Location: Virginia USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Welcome back to trumpet. Second the advice to get a teacher and go slow. Also have fun. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
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royjohn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 2272 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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It is said that Mendez asked his students to lip buzz simple tunes for 30 days before giving them a mouthpiece to buzz on for another month before giving them a trumpet. I think this helps you perfect your embouchure and roll in for the higher register. If you can't buzz it, you won't play it very well. Buzzing requires no mpc pressure, so you learn that you can play without it.
I second the recommendation to rest as much as you play and to avoid most of the time getting tired. Once a week, push yourself to see how your endurance is doing.
I also suggest using the pencil exercise at night before bed, so there is time for the embouchure to recover while you sleep. Work up to holding the pencil for three minutes, but don't let it fatigue you to where you are too tired to play. _________________ royjohn
Trumpets: 1928 Holton Llewellyn Model, 1957 Holton 51LB, 2010 Custom C by Bill Jones, 2011 Custom D/Eb by Bill Jones
Flugels: 1975 Olds Superstar, 1970's Elkhardt, 1970's Getzen 4 valve
Cornet: 1970's Yamaha YCR-233S . . . and others . . . |
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