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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:09 am    Post subject: slide adjustment for low D Reply with quote

Just a quick question. Is there any advantage to using either the first or the third valve slide to adjust the pitch for the D below the staff?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, depending on context:

If you're playing a trill from the leading tone in Eb-Major for whatever key horn you're playing. There, having the 3rd slide in the right position for a in-tune tonic Eb is important, and you can adjust the leading tone D with the 1st slide. There are other, similar situations where this kind of logic would prevail. Aside from the scope of the question in the original post, I'm probably not alone in having a 3rd slide pull setting that I use for D alone, to which I add a 1st slide pull for C#, with the 3rd slide in relatively the same position for both - tonal context depending.

Happy practicing - in 'all' 12 keys and more!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dan.

That's what I originally thought but needed to hear it from someone with a better handle on the fundamentals.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

barryj1 wrote:
Thanks Dan.

That's what I originally thought but needed to hear it from someone with a better handle on the fundamentals.

Barry


Anytime!

If you want to apply this to certain Clarke studies (and superimpose minor keys on the exercises), you can determine how fast you'd want to make an adjustment with either first or third slides, as well as certain 'in the middle' positions necessary for quick runs in 'bad keys.'

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might just be in my head, but I feel I get a slightly fuller tone with 3rd vs. 1st. Otherwise, 1st works better for playing the note quickly or any surrounding note requires 1st, such as F or A.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PMonteiro wrote:
... but I feel I get a slightly fuller tone with 3rd vs. 1st. Otherwise, ...

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Changing the slide locations will affect how the instrument vibrates, and it might also change your hand grip placement and tightness.
There's also the issue of where the internal standing wave nodes occur depending on what slides are moved. Valve alignment issues might also be involved.
This is probably a case of 'do what works best for you' - similar to adjusting the tightness of the water key screw.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PMonteiro.
If if sounds better, it is better.
Keep doing what you are doing and not worry about anything but the pitch and the sound. Don't over-analyze.
I was taught this over 50 years ago and it holds true today.
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