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jhatpro
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:54 am    Post subject: Which Conn is This? Reply with quote

I can't tell if this Conn is a pre-fire New Wonder or a post-fire New Invention.

The serial number is 117939 which, I believe, dates it to 1911.

https://jimhatfieldpix.smugmug.com/Vintage-Conn-Cornet-SN-117XXX

What do you think?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lars Kirmser list makes it possible that your serial number is of earlier date. If I may believe Christine Derksen the main (only?) difference between the Perfected Wonder and the Circusbore is the angled tube between the third and second valve which should make your horn a Perfected Wonder. And for the intonation of that one:

I am told by H.M. Lewis that all the Perfected Wonders he has played had "fairly severe intonation problems."

https://7c69570b-c601-4150-b28c-9913d282beed.filesusr.com/ugd/4a7a71_3f1377f3f04c46ff905605e8fbe88206.pdf


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! Wish these old horns could talk?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhatpro wrote:
Thanks! Wish these old horns could talk?


Mine does. It says "Play me."

[img]CIMG2764 by genevie7, on Flickr[/img]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard III wrote:
Mine does. It says "Play me."


Best post I've seen in a long time.
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