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Mirco.malpeli
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:33 am    Post subject: Cornet for ballads Reply with quote

Hello.
what is the most suitable Cornet to play ballads?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a Conn 80A?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2vgnHNcbBU


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an idea...look at this page to see what cornets the jazz greats played and then look at some youtube videos of their playing...you can decide which cornet and mouthpiece (mpc just as important as the horn) they played that you might like.

http://www.ojtrumpet.net/playerhorn/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best cornet for ballads is a flugelhorn.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:20 pm    Post subject: cornet for ballads Reply with quote

For those who may be interested. Aug. 5-7, as in right now, the Bix Lives celebration is taking place in Davenport, Iowa.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today, 90 years ago, the great Bix died.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grits Burgh wrote:
How about a Conn 80A?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2vgnHNcbBU
Warm regards,
Grits


That was NICE!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7xWE-9d5Hs&t=2s

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grits Burgh wrote:
How about a Conn 80A?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2vgnHNcbBU


Warm regards,
Grits


Looks like valves were sticking in the video, though the dubbed sound was fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small venue - 1950's Martin Indiana, 1950's Roth shepherd's crook.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Kennedy wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7xWE-9d5Hs&t=2s

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As soon as I raise the cash I believe this will be my next cornet.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Cornet for ballads Reply with quote

Mirco.malpeli wrote:
Hello.
what is the most suitable Cornet to play ballads?


Hi Mirco.malpeli

I think that it depends on what you mean by ballads. Jazz ballads or ballad style solo cornet literature for a brass band or concert band. For the latter, I find my Yamaha Xeno with the yellow brass bell option, to be a great and very flexible, lyrical cornet, with a great sound. It would hardly be my choice for jazz ballads. I'd use flugel or trumpet.

If you want to use a cornet for jazz ballads, I think that you need to stay away from more British brass band orientated shepherd crook cornets, or at least one combined with a British brass band style cornet mouthpiece, as I don't think that a British brass band cornet set-up is going to give an appropriate sound for a jazz ballad, but we are all different, and if it works for you.

All the best

Lou
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Puje3 which is a nice ballad horn. I know it doesn’t answer your cornet question. It has a Shepherd’s crook bell but takes a trumpet mouthpiece.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody mentioned Olds Recording cornets!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be no surprise to those who have been around this forum for any length of time, but I’ll say it anyway. The answer - the best answer - is the Flip Oakes Wild Thing Shepherds Crook Short cornet. Don’t worry about price, if you can find on for sale. Make sure it’s in good shape, get the money and buy it. Period.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This could fit the bill (expensive!): https://www.inderbinen.com/en/rondo-en
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Monette Cornette definitely fits the bill (very expensive - I saved for years to get it)... https://youtu.be/7IF0o3C15VU
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