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BouttavongMusic
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:10 am    Post subject: Tone Development for Beginning Students Reply with quote

We all know that sound is everything when it comes to trumpet playing. I am interested to hear of what everyone's opinions are when it comes to developing those healthy habits with students.

I cannot even begin to state how many times I have had this conversation with band directors with soft vs bombastic playing.

Let's just assume a student has been instructed with basic embouchure formation...

What are some pros and cons of just playing whatever sound comes out of the instrument? Is there a benefit to instructing a student to play softer, yet supported. When is a good time to expand their dynamic box?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope some advanced players and instructors post comments. I would love to hear a few points of view.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, solid breath support.
Keep the airstream constantly flowing, windpipe not tense.
I don't know what the loud or soft controversy is other than someone taking a dogmatic either/or straw man where none is appropriate. Eventually, you should practice and develop a good sound at any volume.

I would recommend:
Vincent Cichowicz' "Long Tones"
- - (often wrongly called "Flow Studies" + title is deceptive)
Concone's, "Lyrical Studies for Trumpet"
Lowell Little's. "The Embouchure Builder"

For me, Vince Cichowicz' writing on breath is the go-to source; succinct, efficient and not prone to lengthy, pedantic micro-analysis.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my students keep a journal and we do daily journal assignments. Early on we define the term resonance. We talk about what makes a resonant sound, free vibration, relaxation. "A resonant sound can be soft or it can be loud. A resonant sound is flexible. We always strive for a resonant, full sound on every note we play."

I always remind them of this, but mostly for beginners you just work with the sound they're getting and don't try to micromanage too much physically unless you are 1 on 1 with a student. I am teaching a class of a 32 students at a time so that's not possible. Breathing visualization exercises... you are cooling soup not blowing out birthday candles. The lips need to be free to vibrate. Lots of call and response so they can try to match my sound.

Hope this is helpful.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Tone Development for Beginning Students Reply with quote

BouttavongMusic wrote:
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What are some pros and cons of just playing whatever sound comes out of the instrument? ...

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I think that some part of early instruction and self-training needs to emphasize being able to 'cleanly' play individual notes at a mp / mf loudness - having the note start at the desired loudness and have 'acceptable sound quality' MAINTAINED from beginning to end.

It is important for the player to understand and recognize 'acceptable sound', and to develop the skill to reliably produce it. After that, items such as moving notes, loudness changes, articulations, etc. can follow.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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