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Steve A Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:03 am Post subject: Hummel - Original Markings? |
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Can anyone settle a question for me? My understanding since university was that virtually all of the musical markings in most editions of the Hummel are editorial, and that the original includes little to no indications about dynamics, articulation, etc., in the solo part. Does anyone here know for sure?
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Danbassin Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:49 am Post subject: |
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So long as copies are still available, one could purchase the manuscript facsimile alongside Tarr's editorial commentary: https://www.historicbrass.org/20-features/music-reviews/189-facsimile-edition-of-the-hummel-trumpet-concerto-1803
Hummel wasn't Bach - many of the expressive nuances in music had begun to make their way into scores and parts by his time, and we even know his preference for beginning trills ON the note (and not on the upper-neighbor, as in the Baroque), as became the case for Classical-period composers.
A further wrinkle in responding to your question has been taken on by keyed trumpet virtuoso and scholar, Markus Würsch - whose fairly recent work on the concerto sought to realign Weidinger's continued updates to his instrument with the subsequent elaborations and alterations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XkrFxPBLXQ
So - are those dynamic markings and slurs and crescendo/diminuendo hairpins in edited sheet music Hummel's? Probably not. However, they are there to facilitate musical performances of a work which faced a century and a half of neglect between Weidinger's New Years Day 1804 premiere and subsequent performances and Ghitalla's rediscovery and recording. If you're doing serious historical research on the piece, start with the Tarr, read every liner note to every recording published, read the body of work they cite, then go about finding your path to say something original about this little masterpiece.
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trpt.hick Rafael Méndez Forum Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I own a copy of the original score of the concerto. Hummel DID place quite a few of the dynamics. My edition (like Tarr's edition) has Hummel's original dynamic markings. Any added markings are in brackets.
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Steve A Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your thoughts! Whenever I can go back into a library to take a look, I'll take a gander at the original parts. |
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ctindel New Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Steve A wrote: | Thanks for your thoughts! Whenever I can go back into a library to take a look, I'll take a gander at the original parts. |
In a related note, Rolf Smedvig who was a student of Ghitalla published his edition of this work and made it available for free download as well (you don't need to buy the DVDs to download it).
https://www.learningfromthelegends.com/instruments/trumpet/hummel |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Fascinating. Thanks, guys. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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mm55 Heavyweight Member
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ctindel wrote: | Steve A wrote: | Thanks for your thoughts! Whenever I can go back into a library to take a look, I'll take a gander at the original parts. |
In a related note, Rolf Smedvig who was a student of Ghitalla published his edition of this work and made it available for free download as well (you don't need to buy the DVDs to download it).
https://www.learningfromthelegends.com/instruments/trumpet/hummel |
That page is about the Hummel concerto, but the free PDF's for download are the Haydn. _________________ '75 Bach Strad 180ML/37
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