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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:53 pm Post subject:
Ha ha! No opinion just fact, @jetjaguar
Nice performance though. Will not deal with the idea of best in either category. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:03 pm Post subject:
This is the greatest version.
This is a procession not a race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0SVTX0prUg
Boston is a great orchestra and is one of my favorites. Philly under Ormandy was also great.
R. Tomasek
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Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9003 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:02 pm Post subject:
MrClean wrote:
No trill in the “Procession of the Nobles”?!
Jim, to what trill are you referring?
But back to your regularly scheduled thread.
Can we all agree om a tempo?
Something like this will probably be somewhat arbitrary regarding "authenticity" because it's from a processional scene from the an opera (Mlada) and is in the background. How to handle the music? As true to the original as possible or as a stand-alone piece of music where tempos may not be the same as in the original. Remember, originally the characters have to "process". That's not necessary the same tempo as some nimble woodwinds could come racing at into an their own comfortable tempo.
Was the piece redone in the original's lifetime as stand-alone? To me there's not necessarily a right or wrong but, at the same time just comparing it to a prevalent modern interpretation doesn't exactly show you what you should be basin your interpretation on.
BTAIM. and I know this conductor knows his stuff, but I find it curious that someone could be tha seemingly qualified to stand in font of the Boston and have his head buried in the printed page for something as simple as "Procession"
Just musing, but makes me wonder if this did not have the kind of preparation it might otherwise get. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Is that the Revelli era? Ah, the age of symphonic transcriptions. That band was scary and Sinta burns. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:20 am Post subject: Best performance
The band version was from the Revelli era. Don Tison played in that group and told me stories about the experience. To this day, this was one of the most musical experiences he had. He pretty much did it all...
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:22 am Post subject:
There's also a fairly decent brass band arrangement of this as well.
I'm not convinced it's the best orchestral music ever written, that's a debate for another day, but it's a good one, to be sure. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away."
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm Post subject:
Here it is with the final trills and in its actual content.
Needless to say, Rimsky-Korsakoff was a brilliant orchestrator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka25yHNkmSI
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