Bach Strad LR180S37 for lead jazz?

[Kaelos]

Hoping to purchase a Strad 37 with a #25 leadpipe for mainly lead jazz playing on my private teacher's recommendation, thoughts? And any recommendations for other horns that could fit that role in a similar price range used?

[JonathanM]

You should get scores of responses.

I really like the LR Strads, but not everyone does. Options? Hundreds, literally. CarolBrass puts out a CRT-7770 is a great horn; light, bright and a joy to play. Another good offering by CarolBrass is there CTR-5000L YST. Both models have a bell rather similar to the Strad 37, but a slightly larger flare (5 inches).
A good Benge would be a nice choice as well.

Really, the lighter the bell, potentially the easier, brighter lead tone you'll get.

Enjoy the many options that others will offer as well.
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[JayKosta]

A BIG consideration is whether the LR180S37 is an 'additional horn' specifically for jazz (or other specific situations), or whether it is intended to be your only pro-level horn, and ALSO useful for jazz.

Are you looking for a horn that is 'best suited' for jazz, or a good all-around horn that can be used for jazz, and many other types of playing.

My view is that for most people, it's best to have a good quality instrument that can be used in many different settings - jazz, pop, concert, small group, etc.

I suggest that you don't worry about getting a 'jazz horn', just get a 'good horn' that can be used successfully in many settings. And I'm guessing your teacher has a similar view.
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[kehaulani]

Because of your suggestion, Jay, does that mean that you do not think a Bach LR180S37 is a "Goldilocks" horn?
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[JayKosta]

[Manuel de los Campos]

[spitvalve]

I have an LR180ML37 Strad and have been playing it for thirty years. It's probably the best all-around horn I've ever owned. It works well for lead if you find the right mouthpiece. It's a little tighter up high than my Getzen 700, but when I'm relaxed and blowing right it opens up just fine--a lot more than the standard Bach.

I like the combination of lightweight body and standard weight bell. When I was horn shopping back in the day I A-B'd it with a standard Strad 37. The LR180 has infinitely better response and you still get that great Bach sound, but with a little more sparkle to it. The other thing I noticed was that it had much better intonation than the standard 37 model I tested. It has great projection and works with a lot of different mouthpiece types--lead, orchestral, etc.

It slots well and the reverse leadpipe helps the intonation and makes it a little more free-blowing. I had been playing a .470 bore CG Selmer before I switched to the Bach. The Selmer was a great horn but I had a hard time being heard in a big band section even when I was blowing my brains out because the sound wasn't directional enough. Switching to the LR180 solved the problem and allowed me to play more efficiently.
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[Ed Kennedy]

[Manuel de los Campos]

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[bnbechtel]

[kehaulani]

I would like to know why a "Schilke 12, . . is a commercial mouthpiece". I played an 11 on classical-oriented music for years.
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[adagiotrumpet]

I always love the responses on the forum which in essence say "I don't have much (or on occasion, any) experience with the horn or situation you are asking about, but here is my opinion anyway", even if it doesn't directly address the original question. The OP asked specifically about using a Bach 37 with a 25 leadpipe for playing lead. He or she was not asking for an all around jazz horn, not asking for an all purpose horn, or "Goldilocks horn", whatever that is suppose to be.

As a long time lead player who also owns and plays Bachs on a regular basis, here is my response to the OP. Bachs are great all around horns. I have been playing them for many years. I currently use a large bore 25 on a regular basis. However, with one exception (see below),they are generally not my first choice as a designated lead horn, especially the 37. My first choice for playing lead is a Schilke B2 or B3. Other makes that I actually own or have played that I would consider good choices for lead would include a Bach Commercial, Getzen Eterna, Benge, or other Schilke models besides the B2 or B3. Several Carol Brass models have been suggested here for playing lead. I would certainly check them out. While I am not a huge Yamaha fan, I would also check out the Shew models as well as the Bergeron models.

I am sure that there will be other suggestions for the OP. Hopefully they will directly address his or her original question.

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[trumpetchops]

The Bach is a good trumpet.
At that level of instrument, the difference in horns will be more about you (or a fit with your body), than the trumpet.
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[improver]

37 is effective for everything