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hawkeshorn
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:47 pm    Post subject: Hawkes & Son Clipperstone Reply with quote

I have an old Clipperstone trumpet in very good condition that I don't know much about.


I'm not a trumpet player, or musical in anyway but my kids are interested. They play piano and sax. The trumpet is almost 100 years old and I've been told that it is only playable by an expert and only as a curiosity. No one would use it in a band or orchestra as modern trumpets are tuned differently. I'm going to get more detail from a local specialist but I'm interested in hearing what others have to say.

I also have the original case it came in. It is not in very good condition compared to the trumpet.

Wondering what to do. Should I let me kids play it? Should I restore the box? Is it worth much?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The horn was made by Hawkes & Son (later Boosey & Hawkes), and was a good trumpet in its day. If, as I suspect, it has a 5X,XXX serial number, it was made in the late 20s and would likely be in modern pitch. However, English trumpet tonal concept in the 1920s was quite different from today, so it is mostly useful as a means of adding authenticity to a film or stage production where an authentic Depression era dance band sound might be desired.

Film and TV productions almost never get this right (for instance, after producing an hour-long special touting their "expert", the Downton Abbey series had someone playing a 24K gold plated Elkhart Bach in 1922.....).

This example is in the best shape I have ever seen a horn of this type and era, so please do not do anything rash. It should be protected (by you or sell to a collector. It's probably worth $350-$450)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It so happens, I have the long lost cousin to your 'Clippertone' - It's the Boosey & Co "Solbron" - there are some interesting differences.
The Bb setting sounds nice and blitzy, but the A sounds as if I'm playing through carpet! Mine is 1926 and plays OK - Yours is in superb condition. Has it been re-plated?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The specialist I took it to said it has probably been re-plated. My brother had some work done to it 30 years ago but I don't know if that included re-plating. I imagine yours would clean up nice with a bit of a polish.
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