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Denny Schreffler Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Gimme EcoPro Baby!
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 974 Location: Europe
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Denny Schreffler wrote: | Gimme EcoPro Baby! |
When I first saw this thread I was wondering what exactly was in this oil that made people act like this lol. Turns out it's just a promotion for free stuff. |
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gregplo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 504 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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stuartissimo wrote: | Denny Schreffler wrote: | Gimme EcoPro Baby! |
When I first saw this thread I was wondering what exactly was in this oil that made people act like this lol. Turns out it's just a promotion for free stuff. |
Monster makes great products to start with, so when they create a new product AND offer some for free? Yeah, people are going to want to try it.
I have tried them, and the Monster Eco Pro Valve Oil and Tuning Slide Oil products are terrific. _________________ Best Regards,
Greg
Edwards Gen II
P. Mauriat PMT-75 (Ti/Copper)
Conn 61B
Benge 90B
Conn 80B LB
CarolBrass Arturo Sandoval Pocket Trumpet
CarolBrass CFL-620R
Getzen CB 610
Remember...when He returns, the trumpet shall sound.... |
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stuartissimo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2021 Posts: 974 Location: Europe
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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gregplo wrote: | Monster makes great products to start with, so when they create a new product AND offer some for free? Yeah, people are going to want to try it.
I have tried them, and the Monster Eco Pro Valve Oil and Tuning Slide Oil products are terrific. |
I do not doubt that, and it's not criticism...just that, if you haven't read the first post, it's quite a funny thread. |
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Goby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:13 am Post subject: |
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I received my (very generously sized) bottle of Eco Pro a couple days ago, and I am happy to report that this stuff is awesome. I've used it on both vintage and modern horns, and the action is smooth, fast, and without any sticking. I've tried "classic" monster oil in the past, and the smell always put me off. The Eco Pro is odorless, which is a huge plus in my book. I'm happy to know it's plant based and a sustainable product. I'll certainly be ordering more of it in the future. Big thanks to the Lube Masters for doing this give-away. |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 903
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I just received my bottle. It works great and the fact that it is plant based is even better. Even better than Hetman light. |
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 407 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Received the EcoPro Oil and transitioned my Al Hirt LeBlanc, Martin Committee and Signet horns. Cleaned the pistons and valve bores with alcohol and applied the EcoPro oil.
First Impressions:
The valves on the LeBlanc slightly faster using the EcoPro oil versus using Moster Oil, Doc’s Juice. Played through a practice session about 1.5 hours without issue.
The Committee’s valves also feel slightly faster using the EcoPro oil versus using Doc’s Juice. Again, completed a practice session of 1.5 hours without issue.
The Signet valves are much faster using EcoPro oil versus the previous Berp’s Bio #3. Also worked through a practice session about 1 hour without issue.
Also, see below a rudimentary viscosity comparison of several oils I have used in the past and the EcoPro oil. I placed one drop of each oil on a piece of glass and then tilted the glass to allow the oils to run. In threory,the longer trails are thinner oils and conversely the thicker oils are shorter. I had to red highlight a strip next to the oil trails since they are difficult to see at some angles. One surprise was that Doc’s Juice and Berp-Bio #3 appears to be about the same viscosity.
Thanks for the free sample. Will update after a month or so.
Ron
_________________ Martin Committee #2 1954
Leblanc “Al Hirt” Model 1966
Olds Custom Crafted Ultra Sonic 1974
Edwards Gen II 2014 |
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Quadstriker Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Dec 2021 Posts: 107
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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For Christmas I got myself another horn and I decided to try my new complimentary bottle of EcoPro on it while continuing to use regular Monster on my other horn in order to compare the two.
I couldn't really tell a difference. That's a good thing, as I really like regular Monster.
I also happened to get sick recently (like a lot of people) and had to take a few days off of playing. Didn't re-oil when picking up the horn again to test that EcoPro longevity. Worked fine throughout a session.
I was a fan of Monster products beforehand (I think their cleaning kit is the best value out there for a new player) and that seems to be continuing.
EcoPro gets a thumbs up from me. |
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Croquethed Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2013 Posts: 612 Location: Oakville, CT
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I kept the same routine with the new stuff that I keep with my old reliable Doc's Juice: apply 6-7 drops per valve about every 3-4 hours of playing time.
Happy to report the EcoPro and Doc's both last a long time. Valve 3 on a newly bathed Getzen 907s got sluggish after about 4 hours with the EcoPro. Valves 1 and 2 were still very fast.
I'd say the new stuff is certainly Doc's equal, and once I am run through my stash of Doc's (2 small bottles left), I won't hesitate to switch. |
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ghelbig Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 908 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Gimme EcoPro Baby! |
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ghelbig wrote: | Gimme EcoPro Baby! |
As promised, the slippery stuff arrived.
And as described, the slippery stuff is slippery. This may become my go-to valve oil.
Now if I could figure out why my 2nd valve hangs up when I'm playing in the key of B ....
Gary. |
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Bucaneer61 Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 230 Location: Buckhannon, WV
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:54 pm Post subject: eco-Pro |
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Monsters, you have really done it this time. I've just cleaned and re-oiled my 1937 Martin Handcraft Imperial with the heavy viscosity version. The valves have never felt so smooth, actually unbelievable. I'm sold. Thanks for getting this stuff on the market. I do have one suggestion however. I got a bottle of each, lite and heavy. Different color caps would be nice when pulling a bottle out of a gig bag on a dim bandstand. That's nitpicking though. Great job.
Michael _________________ Selmer Radial Bb ML - Jan., 1972
Selmer Radial C XL - Jan., 1972
Getzen 580S cornet - c. 1973
Blessing Artist Flugelhorn, rose brass bell
Accent Picc by B & S
Conn 28B Concert Grand Bb - 1925
Martin Handcraft Imperial - 1937 |
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Goby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Is an Eco-Pro tuning slide oil in the works? I like heavy grease on my slides and would love to have 100% plant-based lubrication on my horn. |
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gregplo Heavyweight Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 504 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Goby wrote: | Is an Eco-Pro tuning slide oil in the works? I like heavy grease on my slides and would love to have 100% plant-based lubrication on my horn. |
There is an EcoPro Tuning Slide Oil available. It works great on my 1st and 3rd slides. I think it is too thin for the main tuning slide...maybe they'll come out with an EcoPro grease??? I'd certainly try it as good as the Valve and Tuning Slide oils work. _________________ Best Regards,
Greg
Edwards Gen II
P. Mauriat PMT-75 (Ti/Copper)
Conn 61B
Benge 90B
Conn 80B LB
CarolBrass Arturo Sandoval Pocket Trumpet
CarolBrass CFL-620R
Getzen CB 610
Remember...when He returns, the trumpet shall sound.... |
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Monster Oil Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Posts: 512 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:57 am Post subject: |
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gregplo wrote: | Goby wrote: | Is an Eco-Pro tuning slide oil in the works? I like heavy grease on my slides and would love to have 100% plant-based lubrication on my horn. |
There is an EcoPro Tuning Slide Oil available. It works great on my 1st and 3rd slides. I think it is too thin for the main tuning slide...maybe they'll come out with an EcoPro grease??? I'd certainly try it as good as the Valve and Tuning Slide oils work. |
Sorry to say there are no plans in the works at the moment for a thick main slide grease. Our synthetic grease is food grade and very safe, but it's not plant based. _________________ www.MonsterOil.net
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lipshurt Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2642 Location: vista ca
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone noticed yet if it turns to “rubber” after a while? Like in the bottom caps you know how synthetics and also beep bio-oil turns to a rubbery grey film that can line the inside of ports and line the inside of the bottom caps? That’s the only thing I don’t like about berp bio. I went back to Al cass cuz there is NEVER any kind of residue that builds up. _________________ Mouthpiece Maker
vintage Trumpet design enthusiast
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Goby Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I've had that happen with Hetman. I assumed it had more to do with the bio-film produced by the player rather than the oil itself. |
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jharris2 Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 168 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Just had first chance to try the oil today, using it on my Celebration in a rehearsal. The oil performed great! And I love the narrow spout on the bottle.
Thanks, Monster Oil! _________________ John
2014 Flip Oakes Wild Thing flugelhorn (copper bell)
2014 Flip Oakes Celebration trumpet
2005 Flip Oakes Wild Thing trumpet
2002 Flip Oakes Wild Thing short cornet
1976 Getzen Eterna Severinsen trumpet
1951 Olds Ambassador cornet |
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 407 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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After a little over a month of using EcoPro oil in my 3 main trumpets, I can report that the oil has performed flawlessly. Extended oiling cycles of the valves in all 3 trumpets. No sticking of the valves and no odors at all. Looks like it has it all, a great product.
Ron _________________ Martin Committee #2 1954
Leblanc “Al Hirt” Model 1966
Olds Custom Crafted Ultra Sonic 1974
Edwards Gen II 2014 |
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Robson Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 666 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Robson wrote: | Gimme EcoPro Baby! |
I got my oil this week, after more than 2 months... (Thank the Brazilian Post Office )
I wanna thank Monster Oil for this free sample. Absolutely great!
Do you plan to have a whole line of eco oil, with slide oil, slide grease, etc? _________________ Robson Adabo de Mello
1 Corinthians 14:8 (KJV)
"For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?" |
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Monster Oil Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Posts: 512 Location: New London, CT
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Robson wrote: | Robson wrote: | Gimme EcoPro Baby! |
I got my oil this week, after more than 2 months... (Thank the Brazilian Post Office )
I wanna thank Monster Oil for this free sample. Absolutely great!
Do you plan to have a whole line of eco oil, with slide oil, slide grease, etc? |
You're most welcome!
6 products in the EcoPro line: 2 valve oils, 2 rotor oils, slide oil, and bearing/linkage oil.
Glad you like like it. We are back in stock now after going out for a bit because of demand.
Best,
Tom _________________ www.MonsterOil.net
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