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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:13 am Post subject: Curry rims? |
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Out of curiosity, I decided to see how I related from my Reeves 42D to a MOR common mpc. like a 3C. I've used mainly Purviance/Reeves mouthpieces and I just can't get used to my new Curry 3C.
Anyone else have experienced that with a Curry rim? Thanks. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Not sure this is helpful but I really like my Currys. The rim is nice and round and fits perfectly. I like round-ish rims, really dislike the Wick rims, the Tilz rims, and the Bach rims. GR is great, AR Res is great, Lotus is great, and JK ist great (for me). _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:57 am Post subject: |
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How does Schilke (11 FYI) compare to that? I would say that most of my playing has been with Schilke and, predominantly, with Purviance and Reeves mpcs with some Bushs thrown for good measure. But Purviance/Reeves, mainly. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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irith Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Curry has the same "feature" of Bach where every diameter has a different contour. So it's hard to make real sweeping judgements.
The 3. rim for me works okay, I played a 3C. for a while. It feels very comfortable to me, but from a functional standpoint I found that I prefer a sharper bite for articulation, and thought the Curry felt like a bit bigger diameter than I wanted. I know he updated the 3C to a slightly smaller Mt. Vernon copy at one point, but even the newer version is squarely on the larger end of 3C equivalents IMO. Pickett 3, GR 66, Warburton 4, Yamaha 14B4 for example all feel a clear notch smaller to me. The diameter may be part of your problem.
No real experience with Reeves to compare. _________________ Bach, Schilke, Pickett mostly |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Makes sense, then, irith. Thank you. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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irith wrote: | Curry has the same "feature" of Bach where every diameter has a different contour. So it's hard to make real sweeping judgements.
The 3. rim for me works okay, I played a 3C. for a while. It feels very comfortable to me, but from a functional standpoint I found that I prefer a sharper bite for articulation, and thought the Curry felt like a bit bigger diameter than I wanted. I know he updated the 3C to a slightly smaller Mt. Vernon copy at one point, but even the newer version is squarely on the larger end of 3C equivalents IMO. Pickett 3, GR 66, Warburton 4, Yamaha 14B4 for example all feel a clear notch smaller to me. The diameter may be part of your problem. |
I really like the way the Curry 3 feels and plays but like you, I think it feels too big, closer to a Bach 1.5 or Yamaha 15 or 16. And historically I can't play that size without losing range and endurance.
Mark Curry wrote me that indeed his rim shapes track the similarly numbered Bach shapes. I was hoping his size 5 would feel like a smaller version of Curry 3 but alas he says it feels more like the Bach 5 which is very different.
If Curry had one that felt more like the Yamaha 14B4 I'd definitely give it a go. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Curry rims? |
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kehaulani wrote: | Out of curiosity, I decided to see how I related from my Reeves 42D to a MOR common mpc. like a 3C. I've used mainly Purviance/Reeves mouthpieces and I just can't get used to my new Curry 3C.
Anyone else have experienced that with a Curry rim? Thanks. |
OK - I admit it has been 25 years or so since I played the Reeves 42 series, but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the Bach or Curry 3C. The only Curry rim I thought was even slightly similar to the Reeves was the 8.5 rim and I didn't find it as comfortable as the Reeves.
Curry rims are great if you play Bach style rims. Since you are used to Reeves rims, you are probably not going to get used to any Currys or Bachs.
You might be have some success with the Schilke 12B or Schilke 14B. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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"Curry rims are great if you play Bach style rims. Since you are used to Reeves rims, you are probably not going to get used to any Currys or Bachs."
You nailed it, Andy. I'm going to stick with my Purviance/Reeves. Thanks, though, everybody. Very helpful. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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TKSop Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:54 am Post subject: |
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I'm just going to put this out there...
For me, the 600-series rims are exceptional - nicely "neutral" in the sense that they're in the Goldilocks zone for roundedness, bite, cushion, etc... They just work.
As much as the 3. rim is a good one for people who like big pieces, the 600 being both a great profile and consistent across sizes makes it one that everyone should try (and then unlike the 3. if you want to try different sizes you can do so without going custom).
Dare I say... The 600 should be Mark's standard series. |
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JMWTpt Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 am Post subject: Curry Rims? |
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The Curry 3C. doesn't work well for me, and I suspect it is the rim or transition to the cup. I have a modest collection of Curry mouthpieces (3C. 3BC. 3B, 3M., 1-1/2C, 2C and 2BC, to name a few ). All work well except for the two 3C.s I have (one was dropped and bent at the horn end, and it is not used, though straightened, because I do not want to wear the receiver unevenly). The 3C.s behaved identically. The problem for me is that my attacks are much more inconsistent on the 3C., without doubt. All of the others are predictable, and all are comfortable. Visually, I cannot determine the cause, so I don't use the 3C. Mark's quality and consistency are great. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Curry rims? |
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Andy Cooper wrote: | OK - I admit it has been 25 years or so since I played the Reeves 42 series, but I'm pretty sure it's smaller than the Bach or Curry 3C. The only Curry rim I thought was even slightly similar to the Reeves was the 8.5 rim and I didn't find it as comfortable as the Reeves. |
I confess that I'd previously ignored that the OP was going from a Reeves 42 to any 3C. I've had Reeves 42 and 43N size pieces and the 43N approximated the Bach 3C rim shape/feel pretty well but the 42 felt tiny by comparison. Coming off a Reeves 42 I think a user would trend towards a Bach 6 or even a 10.5 (I've not played anything in size 8/8.5).
FWIW I never got along with the Reeves pieces I've tried on the Bb but given time and money I'd seriously consider getting a 43NHF for the flugel. A friend got a 43HF and it sounds incredible. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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Locutus2k Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:34 am Post subject: Re: Curry rims? |
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kehaulani wrote: | Out of curiosity, I decided to see how I related from my Reeves 42D to a MOR common mpc. like a 3C. I've used mainly Purviance/Reeves mouthpieces and I just can't get used to my new Curry 3C.
Anyone else have experienced that with a Curry rim? Thanks. |
I suggest you to try the Curry #2 rim. Don't be fooled by numbers, it feels like a Bach 3 on the lips but the rim imho is most similar to reeves rims. _________________ ------------------------
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Locutus2k. I've not pressed the issue and just ordered another Purviance. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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