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'ThE Martin' trumpet: What is it?



 
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easyleopard
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:21 am    Post subject: 'ThE Martin' trumpet: What is it? Reply with quote

I recently bought a Martin trumpet from a pawn shop. The only inscriptions that appear on the horn (the bell) are "ThE Martin” (with a peculiar capital E), ELKHART-INDIANA (hyphenated words in capital letters), USA" and the serial number 700294. It looks identical to the Martin Imperial trumpet of the 1930s (without a thumb saddle like many Committee trumpets). I looked everywhere conceivable but found nothing on "ThE Martin" trumpet. Can anyone tell me what I have bought?
According to the serial number 700294, it was made in 1964 when the Committee line of saxophones were being referred to as "The Martin." Nowhere did it mention that the same applied to trumpets, unless someone at the RMC plant pulled a fluke. When compared with my Martin Custom C trumpet, this weird horn sounded similarly rich and complex, even a bit darker (better than the latter day Committees). It held its own when pitched against the rest of my horn arsenal: Conn 38B Constellation, 61B Super Connstellation, Conn Vintage 1B, 2B, King Super 20 Silversonic, Silver Flair, Buescher 200, Holton Revelation, Bach Stradivarus Commercial; etc., but its tone color sounds closest to my Buescher 200. Hence I am utterly bewildered by this odd ball.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like an end-of-the-road horn:
https://www.horn-u-copia.net/serial/martinlist.html

A horn-u-copia photo search will reveal at least one other of that vintage.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just bought a trumpet...j/k
If it doesn't have "Committee Model" stamped then my guess is not worth very much. But it may be a great player for you,
and if it is, enjoy!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you can find it in this

https://www.trumpet-history.com/Martin%20Trumpet%20Models.pdf
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it have anything stamped on the mouthpiece receiver??
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it look like any of these?

https://www.saxophone.org/museum/publications/id/292

pages 8,9,10

You might also look at trumpets here
https://contemporacorner.com/trumpets/

There were some things going on with Richards Music, Blessing, Martin, and Reynolds in the 60's. We might be looking as some kind of internal stencil. "The Martin" was a specific term used for some of the Martin saxophones from '45 to '63.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin made a classic and very good sax called "The Martin". Maybe this is a parallel trumpet in that line. Might be someplace to search.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Martin" on the Bell and the serial number says you have a horn made in the original factory at Elkhart. By the time your horn was made the factory was owned by Wurlitzer who had financed RMC who had acquired Reynolds and Blessing as well as Martin by 1961. RMC was not successful and Wurlitzer ended up with all Trademarks and assets.
Martin serial numbers restart at 700000 from 1964 with the Wurlitzer acquisition.

If your horn looks like an Imperial, it it very likely based on a Martin Imperial and built from parts and Tooling used to make the same horns in the same factory from the 1930s..
Older models were often built from old parts and sold as Student or intermediate level horns. This is not to say they were poor quality however.
Martin, under Wurlitzer made several models of Martin Trumpets based on previous models sometimes renamed or given names of earlier models.
It's not a Committee but from the same Factory, Tooling, craftsmen, etc.
Depending how it plays snd sounds, there's every chance you just scored a vintage horn that sounds not unlike a Committee but might feel a bit stuffier!
On the other hand you may be lucky and have a great horn that plays and sounds beautiful
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