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the blowhard New Member
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:45 pm Post subject: American built Bessons |
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Simple question - I think. Were all Bessons that were built in the U.S. built by Kanstul? And if not, who else built them? Thanks |
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p76 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty sure that was the case - Besson contacted Kanstul and did a deal. Make sure if you're buying one that it is an American one, the non-American ones aren't as good (speaking trumpets here).
Cheers,
Roger _________________ Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel |
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OldSchoolEuph Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: American built Bessons |
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the blowhard wrote: | Simple question - I think. Were all Bessons that were built in the U.S. built by Kanstul? And if not, who else built them? Thanks |
If you are talking about horns actually marked as Besson
And, if by "built" you mean "fabricated", then Kanstul was it.
However, if by "built" you mean "assembled", then during the days of the Smoot-Hawley tariff act (Great Depression) and early German occupation of France, I believe Fontaine-Besson shipped a fairly small number of parts over to the US to be assembled locally, bypassing the tariffs, etc.. I am not sure who did that assembly work. Josh Landress may know. _________________ Ron Berndt
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2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
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1927 Conn 22B
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1985 Yamaha YEP-621
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the blowhard New Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 6:59 am Post subject: Re: American built Bessons |
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Thanks for the replies. My 1st (and only for decades) horn is a Besson 2-20 trumpet that I bought in a pawnshop. I didn't play for years but a little over a year ago I started up again. Decided to buy a cornet. This is where my question is directed. The horn is in very good condition (like new) and is engraved Besson USA. There is no model number. It plays very well. I am "guessing" it was built pretty close to the end of Kanstul. |
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p76 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Found this quote on the History of Elden Benge page -
https://everythingtrumpet.com/gearhead/Benge.html
"For around 15 years, from the early 80s until the late 90s, Kanstul manufactured the F. Besson line for Boosey & Hawkes"
FWIW
Cheers,
Roger _________________ Bb - Selmer Radial, Yamaha YTR634, Kanstul 1001, Kanstul 700.
C - Yamaha 641.
Cornet - Olds Ambassador A6T, Besson 723, Olds Ambassador Long.
Flugel - Kanstul 1525
Mpc. - ACB 3CS, ACB 3ES, Curry 3BBC, Kanstul FB Flugel |
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