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delano
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2022 10:28 am    Post subject: Oddity Reply with quote

Weird horn, is said to be tuned in D:

https://www.vanderglas.nl/bugel-willson-model-mc-farmer-in-d-stemming-zerr-zeldzaam-bu7990-23965

Anybody an idea who McFarmer is?
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RC Horn
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Oddity Reply with quote

delano wrote:
Weird horn


I can't disagree with you on that.
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Christian K. Peters
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 6:23 am    Post subject: Oddity Reply with quote

Hello all,
Weird looking wrap, yes. Unless it is smaller in size, the tubing looks the length of Bb. But they should know what they are selling.
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hup_d_dup
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Oddity Reply with quote

Christian K. Peters wrote:
Hello all,
Weird looking wrap, yes. Unless it is smaller in size, the tubing looks the length of Bb. But they should know what they are selling.


I think the horn is in alto D, not soprano D.

Hup
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delano
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Oddity Reply with quote

hup_d_dup wrote:
Christian K. Peters wrote:
Hello all,
Weird looking wrap, yes. Unless it is smaller in size, the tubing looks the length of Bb. But they should know what they are selling.


I think the horn is in alto D, not soprano D.

Hup


I think the same. alto in D. What is the use of such a horn?
And yes, they should know but I have some good reasons to doubt their judgements.
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GordonH
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly to allow people who learn "c fingering" in Germany to actually play in C? This will be very difficult to explain if I have to!
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Danbassin
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Low notes.

It's essentially a contralto fluegelhorn. No need for a 4th valve when the lowest 1-2-3 valve combination gets you the G# at the bottom of the bass staff. I've seen this model for sale elsewhere, and the compact design is really pretty cool. Seems practically as easy to hold as a soprano Bb flugel, and knowing some German players who play (Bb) rotary bass flugelhorns who've developed wrist problems from holding up all the weight in one spot, this horn gets you most of that range in a more convenient package. That said, yes, the fingerings can be a challenge if played by anyone other than a trumpeter or contralto/bass trumpet specialist used to getting all sorts of different tonal combinations with the same fingerings, based on the length of their horns.

Happy practicing!
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