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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr-pepp wrote:
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No, there are tons of corporation Bells made in the 70s that are not side seams.


For the 37 Bell, I think that the CORPORATION stamp ended around 68000, but continued longer on 43 and 72 bells. I don't know what the significance is of that and thought it might be related to the side seam.


My LB 25 has a serial number 88xxx. The bell is stamped Corporation, but it doesn't have a side seam.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldSchoolEuph wrote:
dr-pepp wrote:
kramergfy wrote:


No, there are tons of corporation Bells made in the 70s that are not side seams.


For the 37 Bell, I think that the CORPORATION stamp ended around 68000, but continued longer on 43 and 72 bells. I don't know what the significance is of that and thought it might be related to the side seam.


I suspect it's more likely related to when the die wore out and someone said "hey, while were at it, let's go for more modern look"


I tend to agree with that statement. The corporation stamp was quite different in serial number ranges by specific model. Ie. 37 vs. 43. I would guess the tooling wore out, and was changed during that process.

Here’s a range of serial numbers of each and approx. timing.

https://bachloyalist.com/bach-trumpets-bell-variations/
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R. Dale Olson wrote:
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R. Dale Olson


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