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tomterriff Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2001 Posts: 259 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 am Post subject: Schagerl Student C trumpets |
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Does anybody have experience with the Schagerl student model C trumpets, the Academia, and the Caracas? Are they well built? How is intonation and tone? I have a high school student who is buying his first C trumpet. He has played for the last year on a serviceable cut-down Olds Ambassador. _________________ Bb -Bach/Blackburn 37G, Shires CLW
C -Bach Chcago
Eb/D - Charlie Melk Bach conversion
Picc - Benchmark, Schilke P7
Cornet - Getzen 3850 Bb, Getzen 3810 C
Flugel - Selmer Paris 62, Selmer Concept |
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Tivolian Regular Member
Joined: 22 May 2018 Posts: 83 Location: Upstate New York
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Schagerl Student C trumpets |
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tomterriff wrote: | Does anybody have experience with the Schagerl student model C trumpets, the Academia, and the Caracas? Are they well built? How is intonation and tone? I have a high school student who is buying his first C trumpet. He has played for the last year on a serviceable cut-down Olds Ambassador. |
I bought a lightly used Schagerl Academica C trumpet earlier in my comeback, when I had almost no experience with C trumpets but needed one fairly quickly. I found the build quality to be good, valves and slides smooth, and the sound to be fine. I struggled quite a bit with intonation, especially with the D, D sharp, and E near the top of the staff and was unaccustomed to alternate fingerings for these notes. I also found that the horn seemed to close down on me in the higher register. I sold it and bought a used Xeno C, which was considerably better in intonation and openness above the staff.
This was my experience as a relative C-trumpet-novice, but it may apply reasonably well to your high school student. _________________ Tivolian |
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RETrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2021 Posts: 210
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Before Covid, I was looking for a batch of student/intermediate C trumpets for a youth group I run.
The Academica was on the list and I tried it at NAMM. My experience was the same as Tivolian, and the top of staff G on that particular horn was unmanageably sharp.
The horn I had settled on for the kids before that entire project was scrapped by the pandemic was the large bore version CarolBrass CTR-4000H-YSS-C-L in Silver plate. Which I think (have to check my old notes) makes it a CTR-4002H-YSS-C-S. They don't show it on the website, but you can get anything from Carol with the right model code. It doesn't quite have the vibrancy of a pro model C, but the intonation was good (with typical but manageable C quirks) and it'll cut through an orchestra. _________________ Bb: FrankenBach, '72 Committee, Conn 22B, King 2070SGX
C: Bach 229-MK slide/pipe, Bach 226 with YTR-9445(2) pipe
D/Eb: Bach 239 with YTR-9636 pipe
Picc: Stomvi Master, Couesnon Monopole
Cornet: Schilke A2C, '23 Buescher
Flugel: Scodwell Prototype |
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 2022 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Very helpful, have been looking at the Schagerls and the CB horns lately _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
1980/2023 Custom Blessing Scholastic C 😎
1977 Conn 6B
1951 Buescher 400 Lightweight
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