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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:35 am    Post subject: Schagerl Student C trumpets Reply with quote

Does anybody have experience with the Schagerl student model C trumpets, the Academia, and the Caracas? Are they well built? How is intonation and tone? I have a high school student who is buying his first C trumpet. He has played for the last year on a serviceable cut-down Olds Ambassador.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Schagerl Student C trumpets Reply with quote

tomterriff wrote:
Does anybody have experience with the Schagerl student model C trumpets, the Academia, and the Caracas? Are they well built? How is intonation and tone? I have a high school student who is buying his first C trumpet. He has played for the last year on a serviceable cut-down Olds Ambassador.


I bought a lightly used Schagerl Academica C trumpet earlier in my comeback, when I had almost no experience with C trumpets but needed one fairly quickly. I found the build quality to be good, valves and slides smooth, and the sound to be fine. I struggled quite a bit with intonation, especially with the D, D sharp, and E near the top of the staff and was unaccustomed to alternate fingerings for these notes. I also found that the horn seemed to close down on me in the higher register. I sold it and bought a used Xeno C, which was considerably better in intonation and openness above the staff.

This was my experience as a relative C-trumpet-novice, but it may apply reasonably well to your high school student.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before Covid, I was looking for a batch of student/intermediate C trumpets for a youth group I run.

The Academica was on the list and I tried it at NAMM. My experience was the same as Tivolian, and the top of staff G on that particular horn was unmanageably sharp.

The horn I had settled on for the kids before that entire project was scrapped by the pandemic was the large bore version CarolBrass CTR-4000H-YSS-C-L in Silver plate. Which I think (have to check my old notes) makes it a CTR-4002H-YSS-C-S. They don't show it on the website, but you can get anything from Carol with the right model code. It doesn't quite have the vibrancy of a pro model C, but the intonation was good (with typical but manageable C quirks) and it'll cut through an orchestra.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very helpful, have been looking at the Schagerls and the CB horns lately
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