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Kingallen
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:27 am    Post subject: Mouthpiece "Scar?" Reply with quote

So this may not fit the forum topic of "fundamentals" however, after finishing my final Bandcamp and playing for about 6 hours each day in the high C area, I've been left with a dark mark right above my top lip where the upper half of my mouthpiece typically sits. Is there any way to get rid of it? Is it permanent? Is it because I'm playing with too much pressure? I think it's kinda cool because Wayne Bergeron has it too, but my mom is worried.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have your mom talk to Wayne Bergeron's mom.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some players have marked 1/2 rings in their upper lip and some with none. I have no scars so can't relate. I would have a good teacher/coach take a look at how you play and see if they can see any tell-tale reasons.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impossible to diagnose over the Internet. It's not uncommon to have a visible ring on your lip when you've been playing hard for a few days. If you're in pain and it doesn't go away seek medical attention.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halflip wrote:
Have your mom talk to Wayne Bergeron's mom.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Mouthpiece "Scar?" Reply with quote

Kingallen wrote:
... I've been left with a dark mark right above my top lip where the upper half of my mouthpiece typically sits. ...

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It might be a 'black and blue' mark from very minor sub-dermal bruising - if so, it should go away in a few days. And it could be caused by too much upper lip rim pressure - especially if you depend on very high rim pressure to 'smash / squeeze' your lip flat for upper register notes.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a permanent mark on my upper lip as long as I can remember. If memory serves me, I first started noticing it in Summer of '68 during a very busy Drum and Bugle Corps season. Over the years, it has become more "topographical" in nature and guides my embouchure setup with no detriment.
I have played the same rim since 1971 and that has likely given the "scarring" more definition. Without moustache (rarely) it is somewhat visible, but as a part of my features for more than 50 years, no big whoop!

Talk to your teacher about it to get proper direction!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've barely played over the last 20 years, and I still have a bit of a mark on my upper lip. I was a high pressure player as a kid. I managed to get that ironed out in my 20's. The mark never quite went away.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am old enough to remember Doc talking about that mark on the "Tonight" show maybe as far back as the 60's. He claimed he could spot any trumpet player by it. Maybe a bit of a slight exaggeration, but I know my 'stache leaves room for the rim!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be concerned about a dark mark. It's certainly likely that it's due to too much mouthpiece pressure. A good teacher should be able to tell you if your particular mark is a little or a big concern.
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