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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:58 am    Post subject: Conn Trumpets for the Military Reply with quote

I had heard years ago that instruments built for US military bands could have slightly different specs. I read that Gerry Mulligan used to have an old Conn bari sax that had heavier plating that standard production models. Anyone heard anything about this for trumpets?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about Conns; but when I first joined the Navy in the early 1980s, we had 3 and 4-valve Getzen flügelhorns with small-bore trombone flare bells that I was told was a custom order. Probably during the first half of the last century, they bought directly from the manufacturers. Now the service bands buy from GSA-approved vendors such as Chuck Levins.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a bit in Contempora Corner how some of Reynolds' trumpets made under military contract during WWII had slightly larger bells than their other trumpets. https://contemporacorner.com/trumpets/reynolds-trumpets/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's the Olds Military Model with the hammered bell.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They made the Conn 81A cornets for the USA navy special with coprion bells.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benlewis wrote:
Not sure about Conns; but when I first joined the Navy in the early 1980s, we had 3 and 4-valve Getzen flügelhorns with small-bore trombone flare bells that I was told was a custom order.


How would you detect the difference? My small-bore tenor trombone mutes have fit in every flugel I've owned, from the smaller-throated Bach Strad to the blunderbuss Calicchio Copper. Was the final diameter trombone size (7" or larger)?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many years ago I apprenticed with a well known boutique trumpet manufacturer. They obtained a contract for six Bb trumpets from a military base (not one of the DC bands). My recollection is there were numerous pages of bureaucratic specs some of which had little or nothing to do with construction of a trumpet. The specs that did include actual trumpet building were bizarre for practical use right down to the plating and bracing. It resembled a design by a committee of players, all with their own opinion of what belongs in a pro trumpet. Money was no object. In fact, it seemed the more the cost, the better. The personification of an out of hand government project.
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