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dershem Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:43 pm Post subject: Piccolo practice |
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My chops are finally starting to come back enough to get the picc out and put in some face time on it, but alas, my apartment is tiny enough that ALL practice must be muted.
What picc practice mutes would you recommend, and why?
Thanks! _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2665 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:12 am Post subject: |
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None. The only useful time for one of these might be in a performance with a long long break before playing. Think of the messiah and the 25 minute wait to start playing.
Find a place to practice without a mute. The detrimental effects of that mute far outweigh the benefits! _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Like Andy said, it's hard enough as it is. Try playing into a closet full of clothes, or even piled up on a chair or something, directed away from neighboring walls, and not too early or too late. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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JoseLindE4 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Places that I've practiced while living in a small apartment:
1. A park
2. Your car
3. A church that you're friendly with
4. College practice room
5. In my apartment -- make nice with the neighbors and figure something out |
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Divitt Trumpets Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2015 Posts: 520 Location: Toronto
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nltrumpet Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2019 Posts: 206 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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It’s not quite a practice mute, but trumcor makes an excellent piccolo cup mute. It’s one of my favorites… too bad I almost never get to use it. Haven’t tried their picc practice mute… |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 1021 Location: East Asia
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:04 am Post subject: |
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I've used the shhmute. It's pretty good. I live in an apartment and try to do some of the boring work on mute or mouthpiece and then play open lyrically. The shhmute will also work with the CB mini pocket trumpet (Trent Austin has a video of it up somewhere). |
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Practicing with a mute only really works if you perform with the same mute. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 1021 Location: East Asia
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:48 am Post subject: |
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OP asked for a practice mute recommendation, not for reasons not to use a practice mute.
Do any of you live in tiny apartments with thin walls in big cities? There's no car, no campus practice room, no (free) church sanctuary, etc. Where I am it's totally unacceptable to play a loud instrument in a park (the local parks are surrounded by high rises). Maybe these options are readily available in Columbus or Dallas, but Tokyo, London, (San Diego) etc. are different stories.
OP, I would just buy several mutes and work your way through them. Practice mutes have improved *a lot* in the last twenty years. It looks like Trumcor does make a stealth mute and best brass has a practice mute too. I would take Divitt up on the offer. It would be great to hear from someone who has played on them. For me the Bremner/Shhhmmute one is very doable. You have to be careful not to over blow, but that's already true on piccolo. |
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Brassnose Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Mar 2016 Posts: 2052 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:26 am Post subject: |
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I use the sshh mutes for bass trumpet, flugel, and trumpet and would not hesitate to use a sshh picc mute. _________________ 2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
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TheHighNotes Regular Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2022 Posts: 43 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Andy Del wrote: | None. The only useful time for one of these might be in a performance with a long long break before playing. Think of the messiah and the 25 minute wait to start playing.
Find a place to practice without a mute. The detrimental effects of that mute far outweigh the benefits! |
+1 as they say. _________________ "To have have fun, to learn, to improve. To share my perspective on how to navigate playing the trumpet to the best of my ability. To preserve and champion high art, artistic integrity, and live instrumental music."
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patdublc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 1050 Location: Salisbury, MD
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Due to travel, I'm often forced to practice with a practice mute. Sometimes when I have upcoming picc gigs, I have to practice picc with a practice mute. I don't like it, but you can make it work. I would not want to do that on a regular basis. _________________ Pat Shaner
Play Wedge Mouthpieces by Dr. Dave exclusively.
Experiment with LOTS of horn makes and models. |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2162 Location: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Open the closet with the winter coats and aim your bell into that.
I never got any noise complaints when I practiced that way; I immediately got noise complaints when I played into any room when I lived in an apartment. |
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dershem Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:44 am Post subject: |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel wrote: | OP asked for a practice mute recommendation, not for reasons not to use a practice mute.
Do any of you live in tiny apartments with thin walls in big cities? There's no car, no campus practice room, no (free) church sanctuary, etc. Where I am it's totally unacceptable to play a loud instrument in a park (the local parks are surrounded by high rises). Maybe these options are readily available in Columbus or Dallas, but Tokyo, London, (San Diego) etc. are different stories.
OP, I would just buy several mutes and work your way through them. Practice mutes have improved *a lot* in the last twenty years. It looks like Trumcor does make a stealth mute and best brass has a practice mute too. I would take Divitt up on the offer. It would be great to hear from someone who has played on them. For me the Bremner/Shhhmmute one is very doable. You have to be careful not to over blow, but that's already true on piccolo. |
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Thanks for actually understanding what i said. _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces. |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel wrote: | I would take Divitt up on the offer. It would be great to hear from someone who has played on them. |
I do have a regular need for a quiet(er) warmup/practice, especially during my regular church gig, often Prelude with a very long break, then Postlude. I have a practice mute preference for my Bb playing, Silent Brass (sans electronics) but only when necessary and because that's what I already have! To date have only briefly played piccolo for a very short few moments using a colleague's Best Brass Piccolo Practice Mute, not enough for a real evaluation or recommendation.
I took Ewan Divitt up on his most gracious offer and have received and begun to evaluate his new Piccolo Trumpet Practice mute. I will post follow-up feedback once I have had some time using this mute and communicated with Ewan.
Life is Short, find the Joy in it!
Mike _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
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