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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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That got my attention too. Does that "RIP" pertains to the "late" Bobby Shew and John McNeil, too? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | That got my attention too. Does that "RIP" pertains to the "late" Bobby Shew and John McNeil, too? |
In my experience, Booby and Johny Mac are reasonably punctual. _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure the commenter who wrote "RIP" meant it to say that Tom Harrell 'killed' all those players, i.e. outperformed them. _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
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plankowner110 Heavyweight Member
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Monster Oil Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Subtropical and Subpar wrote: | I'm pretty sure the commenter who wrote "RIP" meant it to say that Tom Harrell 'killed' all those players, i.e. outperformed them. |
Ahhhhhhhh....now that makes sense. That combined with the gaping had me confused.
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Monster Oil wrote: | Subtropical and Subpar wrote: | I'm pretty sure the commenter who wrote "RIP" meant it to say that Tom Harrell 'killed' all those players, i.e. outperformed them. |
Ahhhhhhhh....now that makes sense. That combined with the gaping had me confused.
Carry on with the mock slaughter of the world's best trumpet players.... |
As we all know, the internet was created so trumpet players around the world could say, "This one time I hit quadruple C!!!" to each other. _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
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Rod Haney Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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TrentAustin wrote: | Leave it to us trumpeters to make everything into a contest! agh.
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Extreme competitiveness is a requirement for a good trumpet player isn’t it?? Every really good player I ever met, and I was one long long ago, either felt they could or would at some point be able to play as well as anyone (with a little work) or already did. I’m really only speaking to the 1st 5 or so years a talented and motivated player is starting ( after that reality and the demands of the rest of life sets in) but I always felt that you had to think constantly about trying to be best to approach being the best. I am naturally competitive and continued to be long after trumpet was just an entertainment for me, but i always felt the ambition to be the best drove me to become better. Unfortunately reality hit when I realized how much work it would take and the few monetary rewards that it gave. Sorry to say there just isn’t good money in even being a top player. At least compared to many professions that require much less work. Lazy … meh maybe.
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tyler.slamkowski Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Wadada Leo Smith is the absolute best, no question. Dave Douglas, Ingrid Jensen, & Ibrahim Maalouf are up there too. They make great music, not just play the trumpet well. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:37 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^
Music is not a competitive sport it is an art.
Are some obsessed with having the biggest crank on the block? Yes.
Does it further their artistry? Maybe. Maybe they couldn't be good without it.
Sad.
I always compared myself to the best there was, rather than to the next guy.. This is not competitive in the macho sense, it is using a high yardstick for what you are reaching to achieve in your own sense of expression. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Rod Haney Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | ^^^^^
Music is not a competitive sport it is an art.
Are some obsessed with having the biggest crank on the block? Yes.
Does it further their artistry? Maybe. Maybe they couldn't be good without it.
Sad.
I always compared myself to the best there was, rather than to the next guy.. This is not competitive in the macho sense, it is using a high yardstick for what you are reaching to achieve in your own sense of expression. |
I think you just spruced up what I tried to say earlier perfectly.
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humor Regular Member
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peanuts56 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I probably posted this name earlier. My first choice would be Warren Vache. He's flown under the radar most of his career but he's fabulous.
One other guy I've heard who is relatively unknown is a guy named DeShannon Higa. My God can this guy play. He lives in Hawaii and is also a member of The Royal Hawaiian Band. I've heard him in a jazz setting twice at The Honolulu Zoo. One was a memorial tribute concert for a local singer named Jimmy Borges. He blew me away. He has a wealth of ideas and really good chops. One particular solo he exploded into the upper register. He must have been up around A or B Flat over high C. His sound stayed the same even up that high. Nice core to his tone from top to bottom.
I think he lived in NYC at one point and did a lot of work there. Nice guy as well. |
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lakejw Heavyweight Member
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John Mock Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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If I could pick the best overall sounding trumpet player I've ever heard, that happens to play some jazz, it would be Wayne Bergeron. His tone throughout all registers of the instrument is just phenomenal, so rich, full and clean, and that is the sound I strive to attempt to emulate regardless of the genre of music being played.
My close second choice of course would be Arturo Sandoval, for all the things he brings to the table, in jazz or otherwise.
I mean no disrespect to the plethora of other players that I just have perhaps not heard yet, but I have yet to hear anybody better than Wayne or Arturo, though there are plenty I like, among them certainly Louis Dowdeswell, Jon Faddis, Bobby Shew, and Eric Miyashiro.
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delano Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Still there is a difference between jazz artists and instrumentalists. |
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John Mock Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is a difference between jazz artists and instrumentalists.
Vizzuti is an incredible technician whom I would not really mention in any jazz conversation.
WB, when he plays jazz, still plays it better than many others, and Arturo can just play anything.
There are other jazz players, who only ever play jazz (at least that I've heard in YouTube videos) that are indeed great jazz players but imo cannot begin to compare to WB or Arturo because they are on an entirely different level of playing the instrument.
Respectfully submitted.
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