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kokopelli Veteran Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 110
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:38 am Post subject: Special Tongue Type ,Reinhardt |
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Do you have more information on the tongue type Mr.Reinhardt suggested for people with small lower teeth and a big lower lip ?
I have very,very small lower teeth and (because of that) a very long lower lip. |
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JayKosta Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 3303 Location: Endwell NY USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not trying to give 'Reinhardt' info or advice, but I think the first thing to do is find the lip setting and mouthpiece placement that fits you and gives good results. You should be able to do decent 'breath attacks' (not tongued) for most of your playable range.
For tongue position and method - a lot has to do with the particular size, shape, and how well you can control your tongue. Then figure how you use your tongue position throughout playing range. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9025 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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J've read enough about Reinhardt to conclude that it would be dangerous for me to give Reinhart technique information without my having studied with a first-generation, long-time Reinhardt disciple. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Wilktone Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Aug 2002 Posts: 727 Location: Asheville, NC
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:45 am Post subject: |
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kokopelli, how are you currently using your tongue while slurring and sustaining? Are you finding problems with your articulations or something else related to your tongue arch that way?
Whatever tongue type a brass musician finds works best seems to be more related to the size of the mouth and tongue than the relationship of the teeth and gums. Players with shorter lower teeth and a bigger lower lip, for example, might be more likely to play best with a mouthpiece placement with more lower lip inside, but there are so many other factors that contribute to embouchure type that I would hesitate to recommend that to you without watching you play.
If you're really interested in Reinhardt's tongue types and trying to apply one of those to your playing then you might try to grab a lesson with a former student of his. I don't think even Reinhardt would try to give you advice on a tongue type without watching and listening to you play.
Dave _________________ wilktone.com |
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