Hetman valve oil availability?

ABurke · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:28 pm Post subject: Hetman valve oil availability?

Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I couldn’t find a recent or post or confirmed information about the state of Hetman. It seems they’ve had trouble with supply chain or demand the last couple years. I used to use their light tuning slide oil and piston oil 2, but it’s becoming increasingly difficult to find. Lately, piston 1 and the occasional tuning slide grease are the only things I’ve seen in stock.

Anyone have more information on Hetman and their current state of production? My local shops say that Hetman won’t even pick up their phones anymore to update on deliveries, but nothing has been confirmed about what’s going on over there…

GeorgeB · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:21 am Post subject:

I gave up trying to find Hetman and have been using Berp for the past 2 years. It is much better IMHO. It comes in 3 grades.
George
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Jerry · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:39 am Post subject:

I just took a look at Dillon Music's website, and it looks like they have Hetman #2 in stock.

https://www.dillonmusic.com/hetman-piston-valve-oil/

ABurke · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:57 am Post subject:

Hi Jerry,

That’s interesting. I’m on Dillon right now and only Piston 1 is in stock. 2 and 3 are both listed as out of stock. Same situation with WWBW and most other retailers I’m finding on Google.

Ronnman · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:04 am Post subject:

ABurke - I also gave up on recurring availability issues of Hetman’s oils about two years ago. I tried multiple brands of oils/viscosities and settled on Monster Oil Eco-Pro, lite and heavy viscosities. They have worked better and lasted longer between re-oiling in my horns compared to other manufacturer’s oils.

If you’re stuck on Hetmans, I wish you better luck finding it than I experienced.
Ron
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Jerry · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:05 am Post subject:

So sorry. I made the wrong assumption when the photo showed a bootle of #2 and didn't say Out of Stock.

DOEL · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:00 am Post subject:

I've heard it's bad to switch between synthetic valve oil and regular valve oil but does the same apply between synthetic oils with similar or same viscosity? I have a bunch of Yamaha synthetic oil and I'd rather use them than buy more Hetman #2.
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TrumpetMD · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:37 am Post subject:

Brad361 · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:03 am Post subject:

FYI:

https://erniewilliamson.com/p-31370-hetman-piston-light-1-a7231.aspx
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ayryq · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 am Post subject:

I ordered some № 2 from Sweetwater last week, had two bottles arrive in my mailbox today. The bottles are different, round instead of flat.

Still says in stock:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Het2VOReg--hetman-a14mw20-2-synthetic-piston-valve-oil-60ml

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kehaulani · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:09 am Post subject:

If you've been using Hetman #2, Josh Landress uses Yamaha Vintage, which I switched to. Good stuff and plenty of it.

https://www.wwbw.com/Yamaha-Vintage-Synthetic-Valve-Oil-J56602-J56602000001000.wwbw
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Leatherlip · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:07 am Post subject:

I just received the three bottles of Hetman #1 that I ordered in early November. New bottles are the same 2oz but bottles are round. Glad it's back.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/brass-instruments/hetman-1--light-piston-lubricant

jcoffey · Regular Member Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 78

Milano's in Arizona has a ton of it that just came in. (Source: I work there)
https://milanomusic.com/hetman-valve-oil-1-2-3/
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DOEL · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:27 pm Post subject:

Just a head up ya'll, Mouthpiece Express has Hetman #2 in stock.

https://mouthpieceexpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_368_2&products_id=18375
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GeorgeB · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:41 am Post subject:

I recently received an e-mail from Austin Custom Brass saying they now have Hetman in stock. But I have been having good results with Berp so I am not going back to Hetman.
George
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1962 Conn Victor 5A cornet

kehaulani · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:01 am Post subject:

@ABurke - did you ever find what you're looking for?
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