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JFisher63
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:28 pm    Post subject: Pre-war Olds Super? Reply with quote

Curious to hear some thoughts, experiences, suggestions

I just bought my 1st pre-war Olds trumpet, a Super (SN 84XX = 1940.) As with most older Olds, the lacquer is shot ~ which is fine I have two 50s LA Ambassadors in same condition. The valves don't look beat up & I don't detect red rot in photos. Worst shown is a typical dented 2nd valve slide. The bell looks like a crease repair was accomplished but appears like it's a good repair. I've read the pre-war Olds bend easily & even my 1948 Olds Standard seems like it would bend easier than my other 1950s & 60s models. So, I pulled the trigger on purchase because all parts are present & no stuck slides, MPC etc. The seller seemed honest & when I asked Questions, without prompting, they posted more photos. I am sure I paid way to much, but it was an impulse buy to add a pre-war model to my collection.
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EdMann
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't go too wrong. These horns, as much as they've appreciated, are still undervalued. Alongside my Bachs, I cherish these honeys. Intonation is spot on, sound is flexible, as good as most any modern instrument.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Pre-war Olds Super? Reply with quote

JFisher63 wrote:
I am sure I paid way to much, but it was an impulse buy to add a pre-war model to my collection.

In building up my collection, I found some good horns at 'bargain' prices, but when a horn I wanted was already recognized as 'in demand' in the marketplace, I just paid what was necessary to get it when the time was right for me (even if I knew I was going to sink another $1000 to $1500 into it for a professional restoration). I haven't regretted that strategy yet. However, I admit that I'm not into my hobby with an eye toward reselling.

I agree with Ed that the horns are terrific (I don't have a Super, but I have a Super Recording). You can find many threads here that sing the praises of the classic Olds Super.
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stuartissimo
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a very cool horn. Gratz!
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SilverSpunk
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These earlier Olds Supers are lightweight monsters. Lead players seem to like these early Supers, they project very well and are relatively consistent horns.
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