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dmr Regular Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 45 Location: St. Paul, MN
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:28 pm Post subject: Thoughts on Reeves JH and HornTrader 3CS-28? |
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As stated in subject line, has anyone played and compared these two?
I have a Reeves Jerry Hey (JH) in the stock/fixed shank configuration, so I have a sense of how that plays. While it has more 'front' to it (bright isn't exactly the right word) than my 3c, it's pretty versatile for me.
If anyone has compared the Reeves vs the HT do the sound and support differ much? Love the sound of the JH, but looking for something with a little more zip. Regarding the 3CS-28, I was wondering whether the similar approach-at least on paper- to the upper portion (slightly shallower cup, 3c rim, 28 throat) pared with a backbore that should be zippier than the Reeves 692 might be the ticket...
Thanks in advance for your thoughts! |
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sjfrost New Member
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Reeves JH and HornTrader 3CS-28? |
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I have not compared the two, but I play a Reeves 42 DS 692SL. A little different rim than the JH, but same cup. The 692S or 692SL should give you the zip you're looking for. _________________ Steve Frost |
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hackney_wick Veteran Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2012 Posts: 311 Location: Gone away
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Not able to compare the HT but I play the JH and I have wondered how the Charley Davis lead line model offered by Jim New compares. CD is said to have played a Reeves S cup with 692 bb and 3c rim at one stage and that might be it. It has 27 throat as standard but you can order just the top from Jim New in any throat size for $70 and fit your choice of bb. Might be worth enquiring of Jim New. http://james-r-new.com/store.html |
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dmr Regular Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 45 Location: St. Paul, MN
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the ideas!
Part of the reason I was looking at different makers was I'm not sure I can justify going full custom on a Reeves. So, the James New idea makes sense. I'm aware of a lot of Marcinkiewicz offerings that would probably fit the bill too (I thought I read that the E3/3c may have been inspired by Mr. Davis as well, but maybe it's just folklore).
I was mainly interested in the initial comparison in the subject line, but perhaps to hijack my own thread, I'd be curious to hear from others who tried the JH and landed on something a little different...
Thanks again! |
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ws tpt Regular Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a few months late in reply, but I finally ordered the Horn trader 3CS in October. I have played the Reeves Jerry Hey piece for more than 4 years now. To the OP, I like the HT, but it doesn't feel the same similar to the Reeves piece. To me, my chops, the HT feels very close to the Patrick 3Z or the Marcink. E3/3C. The Reeves feels like nothing else I've ever played & I've been playing for more than 40 years now. The Hey piece does remind me of a 1970's Giardinelli that I had for years (someone helped themselves to that piece years ago). I still miss that mpc. Sorry for the late reply, I hope this is helpful. |
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dmr Regular Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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ws tpt wrote: | I'm a few months late in reply, but I finally ordered the Horn trader 3CS in October. I have played the Reeves Jerry Hey piece for more than 4 years now. To the OP, I like the HT, but it doesn't feel the same similar to the Reeves piece. To me, my chops, the HT feels very close to the Patrick 3Z or the Marcink. E3/3C. The Reeves feels like nothing else I've ever played & I've been playing for more than 40 years now. The Hey piece does remind me of a 1970's Giardinelli that I had for years (someone helped themselves to that piece years ago). I still miss that mpc. Sorry for the late reply, I hope this is helpful. |
Thanks for the reply! It does leave me intrigued...
With respect to "feel', are you discussing rim feel, how the 'blow' feels, response, all of that, something else?
I like the sound I get from the JH. Seems easier to color the sound than some other Reeves pieces I've tried, like the response (quicker for me than a 3c) and has solid targets on the notes. On the other hand, do the other pieces you mentioned (HT or otherwise) give you more 'cut' than the JH? Looking for something to complement the JH at this point vs. a duplicate, and don't know that I want to justify going full custom....
Thanks! |
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Gregory Gilmore Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 118
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:26 am Post subject: Reeves JH |
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I've played the Reeves JH since 1998. Roy Poper suggested it to me during a lesson. I used it primarily for shows and I still think it's a great piece. Bob McCoy recommended to have another made with the 69 backbore and that made a nice difference...I have no experience with the 3CS... |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3772 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Never played the HT piece but I have two JH underparts, one stock with #692 bbore and one with #69 bbore, great commercial cup and the best Reeves cup if you can't play shallow cups .
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