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peoplesmusic New Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2015 Posts: 2 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:27 am Post subject: Cole C/Bb trumpet |
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I have acquired a very nice Cole Trumpet that can be played in C or Bb with the change of tuning slide. Serial number 71925. It has Cole/Chicago/Elkhart on the bell. I was probably made by one of the many brass companies in Indiana for maybe a store in Chicago. I don't really know. I'm just trying to figure out how old it may be and how much it might be worth.
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Chris _________________ peoplesmusic |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12664 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:13 am Post subject: |
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There either will be extra valve slides or you will need to pull them out when switching from C to Bb. |
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peoplesmusic New Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2015 Posts: 2 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:28 am Post subject: |
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There is a mouthpipe tuning slide that changes it from C to Bb. Really wondering how old this horn could be. _________________ peoplesmusic |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: |
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No horn changes from C to Bb by just changing the main tuning slide. All the other slides need to also be changed or at least adjusted or else the intonation for valved notes will be way off. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
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ChopsGone Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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A mouthpipe tuning slide? That sounds more like a cornet or flugelhorn than a trumpet. What others have said here about changing or pulling the valve slides is true. French trumpets in particular often used an H-shaped tuning slide insert, plus pulling the 1st and 3rd slides.
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clmoyers New Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Posts: 1
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:05 am Post subject: I have the same brand horn |
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Chris,
I have the same instrument, a silver-colored, Cole Trumpet that had a main tuning slide extension to pitch the horn from C to Bb. It seems I have a much older version of it, though, my serial number is 1347. Let me know if you found out any usable information about the horn! (I realize it has been 8 years since your initial post) _________________ Caleb |
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