Warmest Flugelhorn?

[Kennyg2019]

Thanks for the warning ⚠️ but I only play in (or around) the staff!

[EdMann]

[Bill Blackwell]

[Kennyg2019]

Ed: OK, then I’d better qualify my question again…and add the phrase “non-unicorn”! 🦄 lol

Bill: Thanks for the suggestion! I just emailed Flip 👍

[Adam West]

This is the warmest sounding one I've heard. But might be too open for many players.
Darkest Flugelhorn Ever Made

[jengstrom]

I have only recently begun to appreciate how mouthpiece sensitive the 1525 is. Different mouthpieces affect general tone, resonance (related to tone, but I’m trying to put a label on the presence of overtones), intonation (massively), and response. I haven’t found a mouthpiece that gives me everything I want with each of those variables, so what I use is, for me, the best compromise.

The first thing I want is the best intonation I can achieve. My horn is susceptible to compressed octaves. Some mouthpieces make the horn so bad that high C is a B and low F# is a G. Those mouthpieces are out.

The second thing I want is a dark, velvety sound. Not tubby, but dark. But I still want enough of those upper harmonics that the sound is resonant. Not trumpety, but resonant. In fairness, some (maybe a lot) of this can be affected by the player.

Lastly, if I haven’t narrowed it down to one mouthpiece by this time, I want response and ease of play.

The mouthpiece that had the best response had the worst intonation. It also wasn’t as dark or velvety as others. The darkest mouthpiece had the best intonation but was not as responsive as I wanted. It also had a tendency to sound tubby. Maybe I could have learned to play it with an amazing dark sound, but it the end I pulled a Goldielocks and picked the one that was Juuust Right. Intonation almost as good as the darkest, with better response and resonance.

I’m purposely not telling what mouthpieces I have in my arsenal; I’m trying to describe concepts. Sorry this was so long, but the point is that mouthpiece experimenting will yield more difference in the sound of the 1525 than you realize.

John
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Bach 43*
Bach 72*
Bach Chicago C
Yamaha YTR-761 D/Eb
Kanstul 1525
Bach 196 picc

[Kennyg2019]

Thanks, guys.

I just ordered two mouthpieces...a Flip Oakes Extreme and a Bob Reeves HF.

[dstpt]

[Kennyg2019]

Thanks again.

I told Garrett to notify me when they get another Fresu in.

I love the sound of both Taylor FHs...the regular and Phat Boy. I can't tell a difference on the videos. Is there a difference in person?

I would've already ordered one but Andy told me there's no return policy.

[dstpt]

[Kennyg2019]

Yeah, I don’t mind heavy horns apparently.

We had a gentleman who’s last name was Kline play with our choir last week. He is apparently the 2nd chair in the Met. He tried my Kanstul and remarked: “Good sound! But it’s heavy!”

I never thought it was heavy. I tried an Adams F3 and thought it was super light! I don’t know, maybe I’ve been eating my Wheaties lately!

[RussellDDixon]

I use to own a Kanstul Signature and it was the nicest flugel that I ever played. Like melted Butter.
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Schilke X3 Bb trumpet
Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Lynn Nicholson Model Monette Prana XLT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece

[dstpt]

[Shawnino]

Andy Taylor may not do returns but IIRC he has a person in the States who will ship horns out for trials.

I love my Phat Boy and try to find a reason/excuse to play it every day. It's like fading into a warm bath. Andy modified it for me to play with the right hand alone, but I find myself using the trigger sparingly.

Andy will tell you that the shape of the tubing matters rather little, so the difference between the Standard and Phat Boy is a matter of style. He's made a playable horn that looks like the Sgt Pepper horn and makes squares and circles in his tubings to order. Bryan Corbett, Andy's walking billboard, recently took delivery of a horn with a square bell. Sounds fine to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yfOeCoNge4&ab_channel=BryanCorbett

Andy's horns may not be tubing sensitive, but they are extremely mouthpiece sensitive. He supplies a mouthpiece with every horn and if you use his piece you get one sound whilst something like a Wick is a different planet if not a separate solar system.

[dstpt]

Or if you're into Batman, you could always order one of these!

https://wmic.net/flugelhorn-batman-phat-boy-andy-taylor/

[Rwwilson]

I have had a Benge 5 Flugelhorn for almost 50 years and still play it. I tend to think of it as having more of a french horn and less of a dark cornet sound. I've seen many posts about problems with these horns playing in tune but don't find that being a problem for me. It is so easy to bend the pitch that if you have the pitch in your mind it comes out of the horn.

[Kennyg2019]

[Halflip]

[Kennyg2019]

Ok thanks, I didn't realize it was an abbreviation!lol

So...who is this American connection that will send out Taylor flugelhorns on trial?

[dstpt]