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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:02 pm    Post subject: Loud Metronomes and good tuners Reply with quote

Any suggestions on Loud metronomes? I have a difficult time hearing the metronome over beautiful sound of my trumpet!

Also, is there such a thing as a good tuner vs bad tuner?

Thanks for the suggestions
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would a phone App and some headphones work maybe?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartissimo wrote:
Would a phone App and some headphones work maybe?

If you use one earbud you might find a better balance with hearing both. I personally haven’t had an issue hearing a metronome while playing though.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the Pro Metronome app for iPhone. I’ve had it a long time but I think I remember it was free. I can turn it up to quite a loud volume.

I’d be interested in responses to the question about a good tuning app, as I don’t much like the ones I’ve tried.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't the loudest one be a CD you could play and control the volume with a home stereo?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If money is no object, a Boss Dr. Beat DB-90 plugged into an amp and some good speakers, and a Peterson StroboPlus.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't the Peterson StroboPlus and the Boss Dr. Beat DB-90 redundant?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Aen't the Peterson StroboPlus and the Boss Dr. Beat DB-90 redundant?


My "StroboPlus HD" does not act as a metronome unless I give them more money. The DB-90 is not a tuner. In any case I prefer separate devices.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ayryq wrote:
If money is no object, a Boss Dr. Beat DB-90 plugged into an amp and some good speakers, and a Peterson StroboPlus.


Arguably any metronome with an output jack can be plugged into an amp and pumped up. If you have even a bluetooth speaker then the volume can be made much louder.

As an aside though, I'm interested in this topic because phone apps are ok if you have nothing else, but I want a dedicated tuner/metronome to leave in my case, and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for decent quality?

Do the models which accept a clip on piezo microphone have any advantages (for trumpets) that are worth considering, over just a plain microphone model? Also wanting to avoid tuners which are set up for guitars...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Above I mentioned what I have on my desk. The DB90 is quite loud without being plugged into anything.

In my gig bag I carry a Korg tuner/metronome which works fine but isn't particularly loud. Specifically I have the TM-50 which cannot show a swinging metronome and a needle tuner at the same time, like the newer TM-60 evidently can. Looks like they've got some other options too:
https://www.korg.com/us/products/tuners/
I own 2 other Korg tuners besides this combo device and I have found them all highly reliable.

95% of the time that device stays in the bag and I use "tonal energy" on my phone. When I look around the section or even in other brass sections this seems to be the app favored by just about everyone (I'm currently finishing a degree at Eastman School, so those are the ensembles I'm exposed to at the moment.)

I find my main use for a metronome when away from my desk is for setting a tempo before I play - not for playing along with, so loud volume isn't as important.

I've got clip-on guitar tuners hanging around, as well as a corded contact clip that plugs into another tuner (like the Peterson) but I can't say I like them. They work, but not especially better than anything else and the guitar ones have annoying button batteries to replace and tiny buttons. Plus they seem to both weight and dampen the bell noticeably.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When playing in church we have in-ear monitors, no stage monitors. I can’t play any of my horns with 2 earphones in, but one out works well. One of the 16 channels in our monitors is a click track, each channel is individually adjustable and I’ve found I don’t need a lot of volume for the click. I’m close enough to the drums I don’t need them at all, primarily have acoustic and bass guitar loud enough to hear, along with lead singer. Electric guitars are cut way back!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an old Dr. Beat (DB-66) that you would get fairly loud. But, if you really needed it loud, you could make it so it had the extra "chirp" on every beat - that was loud enough to use in the brass septet I played in with no amplification.

https://www.boss.info/us/products/db-66/

I remember when the DB-90 came out, I was tempted (and it was far cheaper then) - but frankly, my now decades old Dr. Beat works fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered a visual metronome? I find the same as you, that I can’t hear the metronome when I practice. I found an app called Maestro XL, it shows an image like a conductors baton. You can either view it as if you are the conductor or as if you are in the orchestra. It also has audible sounds too.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestions!!
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