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Boilertpt
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 Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:12 pm Post subject: Trumpet vs Cornet Shank |
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I play a Yamaha 6810 piccolo trumpet and am looking into aftermarket leadpipes. (I've heard from a few folks that a cornet shank leadpipe and mouthpiece makes a big difference in terms of tone, response, intonation, etc.)
I generally like my picc mouthpiece (a Marcinkiewicz 7PD with a trumpet shank) but am wondering how (if at all) different a cornet shank version of this same piece will play.
I'm sure the rim and cup will feel the same, but I'm not sure how the shorter shank will affect things.
What do you all think - will a cornet shank version play differently? |
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stuartissimo
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With both a different leadpipe and a different mouthpiece shank, it’s likely there will be a difference. While I don’t have experience with piccolo trumpets, I have experimented on my cornet with a modular mouthpiece and a shank adapter. Even with the same cup there’s a subtle but noticeable difference in playability and sound (the cornet shank with adapter is slightly more nimble and has a slightly sweeter sound). Adding a different leadpipe to that will certainly have an effect.
The Surakav actually uses the principle as a design feature to be multiple instruments in one.
Not to mention that you don’t have to limit yourself to using the same mouthpiece with both setups; getting a cornet shank sized leadpipe would open up a whole new range of options.
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patdublc
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This is just my own personal opinion. I prefer trumpet shank when playing picc. I play a lot of picc and have never found a reason to think the cornet shank is a better choice. Other opinions will differ, so I think it ultimately comes down to personal choice.
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kehaulani
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Why don't you contact the Leadpipe maker you're interested in and ask them your question?
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sd4f
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Trumpet vs Cornet Shank |
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| Boilertpt wrote: | I'm sure the rim and cup will feel the same, but I'm not sure how the shorter shank will affect things.
What do you all think - will a cornet shank version play differently? |
While I'm generally happy with my picc setup, I have been wondering, and I'm considering going the short shank trumpet mouthpiece route first. My setup is with a two piece mouthpiece, so I noticed that Pickett sell a short shank back bore, so I'd at least be able to play on the same cup and lead pipe, but change the back bore.
Unfortunately, I'm in no rush to try though. |
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