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I've never played a Reeves, but I read the rim is quite wide. I like the rim of the 11B4 and I wonder if I would like the Reeves. It is quite an expesive gamble to just buy it to test. A Yamaha piece is much cheaper |
I'm trying to tell you that I like the rim on the Yamaha 11b4, and I don't like the rim on the bob reeves 42M. It's too soft.
If you are comfortable with the 11b4 but want a sound with more sparkle in the upper register, the easiest choice I think is the Yamaha 11a4.
If I ever play in a big band again I may buy one.
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Heinz
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| Thanks for sharing your experience, maybe I will pick up a 11A4 for bigband. It is cheap enough. |
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Heinz
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So I bought a 11A4 on sale.
The A-rim feels a little wider than the B-rim. The high point is a little more towards the cup. The A feels more responsive than the B and the high register is easier. The sound of the A is more brilliant than the B, but lacks a bit of warmth.
So the A is fine for bigband use and it is easy to switch between A and B. |
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I'm glad you found a mouthpiece that works for you and is also inexpensive.
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Bandcity
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Did you try a Schilke, same number?
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Heinz
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| I once tried a Schilke 11 or 12, but I didn't like the rim. |
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Mark Bradley
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The Yamaha 11B4 is a very good mouthpiece and a viable option for those who like the 7C-ish size. The rim on the 11B4 is very comfortable and they strike a nice balance between a good sound a high range. However if you can play lead with one you're a better man than I. In keeping with the subject I feel compelled to give a shout out to the Yamaha GP series 11B4. They are a heavy weight version and in typical Japanese fashion are extremely well made, much like a Seiko or Toyota. In this day of vastly overpriced mouthpieces they're also something of a bargain selling new for about a hundred bucks, featuring a gold plated rim and bore no less. They are worth trying if you like the standard 11B4.
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| Heinz wrote: | So I bought a 11A4 on sale.
The A-rim feels a little wider than the B-rim. The high point is a little more towards the cup. The A feels more responsive than the B and the high register is easier. The sound of the A is more brilliant than the B, but lacks a bit of warmth.
So the A is fine for bigband use and it is easy to switch between A and B. |
Maybe you know this and had a typo, but to my knowledge the letter in the model of mpc represents the cup, not the rim.
The first number, 11 for the 11A4 is for the general cup width, what one feels as large or small.
The next character/letter, A for the 11A4, represents the cup depth.
The next number, 4 for the 11A4, represents the rim shape.
If the mpc had a non standard backbore, there would be another letter, normally in lower case, such as if you had a 12A4a, in that case the a represents a tighter backbore.
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Heinz
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| ldwoods wrote: | | Heinz wrote: | So I bought a 11A4 on sale.
The A-rim feels a little wider than the B-rim. The high point is a little more towards the cup. The A feels more responsive than the B and the high register is easier. The sound of the A is more brilliant than the B, but lacks a bit of warmth.
So the A is fine for bigband use and it is easy to switch between A and B. |
Maybe you know this and had a typo, but to my knowledge the letter in the model of mpc represents the cup, not the rim.
The first number, 11 for the 11A4 is for the general cup width, what one feels as large or small.
The next character/letter, A for the 11A4, represents the cup depth.
The next number, 4 for the 11A4, represents the rim shape.
If the mpc had a non standard backbore, there would be another letter, normally in lower case, such as if you had a 12A4a, in that case the a represents a tighter backbore. |
No typo.
The A has a shallower cup than the B, but also a slightly different rim (semi thick vs. standard). It is stated in the brochure from Yamaha (page 10): https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/brochure/6/1267056/WA-37R.pdf |
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I have played mostly Schilke 13A4A and 6A4A for longer gigs. Of course I suffered in the low range as far as tone/volume. After 55 years, I have found the perfect mouthpiece for me. I have a strong F# below the staff and can consistently hit the F# above the staff or 4 octaves of G for that matter. The perfect mouthpiece for me? JET-TONE CUSTOM MODEL MF. 19 throat, I believe. Is that the key for me? I don't feel as if I'm using more air. Everything fell into place for me. Off my soapbox now. Thanks for listening.
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