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Trumpetstud Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:01 pm Post subject: Couesnon |
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My teacher has a Couesnon and it does not have a third valve trigger. BUT, I was watching a youtube video of Tom Harrell who has a Couesnon and it has a 3rd valve trigger. Was it added? |
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JoeLoeffler Veteran Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 243
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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A bit more information might get you better answers but if you are talking about a flugelhorn - no, they were not made with third slide triggers but a competent technician can install one. There a couple of options, but the easiest would be Yamaha parts… |
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Trumpetstud Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Yep. I was talking about the flugelhorn. I didn’t think they came with the trigger but then I saw Tom Harrell’s. I thought that was cool. |
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iiipopes Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2015 Posts: 555
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I just pull and set the 3rd valve slide long enough for 2+3 to be in tune or a little flat, and 1+3 then lips in easily. _________________ King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:03 am Post subject: |
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I agree that adding a 3rd trigger would be best. On my older Yamaha flugel with no trigger, I just leave the 3rd slide out a little bit and it allows me to lip everything into tune easily enough. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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Bethmike Veteran Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2020 Posts: 194 Location: NW of ORD
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:34 am Post subject: |
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cheiden wrote Quote: | On my older Yamaha flugel with no trigger, I just leave the 3rd slide out a little bit and it allows me to lip everything into tune easily enough. |
This works on my Yamaha 631 flugel. Very simple solution. _________________ Bach190ML43
Kanstul 1001
Bach NY7
Yamaha 631 Flugel |
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Uberopa Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 930 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Charlie Melk added one to my Couesnon flugelhorn. Yamaha parts plus installation ran about $150 twelve years ago. No idea what it would cost now. Well worth it though. |
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Bill Ortiz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 904
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I had a 3rd valve slide trigger added to my Couesnon flugelhorn as well.... _________________ '56 Martin Committee Deluxe #2 trumpet
14B Schilke mouthpiece
Couesnon Paris flugelhorn
Bob Reeves Sleeves and PVA |
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 2349 Location: Santa Cruz County, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:54 am Post subject: |
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I used to play with a great player who held his Couesnon flugel with his left hand wrapped around the very bottom bell tubing of the horn, two fingers on top, two fingers below. He used his index finger on the inside of the third-slide crook to extend the slide and his thumb under the crook to push it back in. He was just as adept at tuning his D's and C#'s as the rest of us with triggers. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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