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ekendzior
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:34 am    Post subject: Finding the right mouthpiece Reply with quote

Over the summer I marched DCI and so I played on a Marcinkiewicz 9.1 (B. Shew #1.5) mouthpiece since I was playing top split lead. However, ever since I returned I haven't been able to really return to playing on my Bach 1 1/2 c since I find much more comfort in the rim size and weight of the Marcinkiewicz. Are the any mouthpieces that have the same rim size and overall feel as the Marcinkiewicz however have a deeper cup like the Bach 1 1/2 c that anyone would recommend?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcinkiewicz has four cup depths. You can't use one of them?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are the any mouthpieces that have the same rim size and overall feel as the Marcinkiewicz however have a deeper cup like the Bach 1 1/2 c that anyone would recommend?


I'd suggest contacting Marcinkiewicz and asking what they recommend. Alternatively, you could contact Pickett, Frost or another reputable mouthpiece maker and ask about a custom piece that would give you what you want.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course custom work solves your problem - but sticking with stock mouthpieces - Curry 8.5 series, Schilke 10B4, Yamaha Hagstrom. These have rims and ID that you might find close enough.

If the Curry 8.5 rim works - you have several cup and backbore choices from cornet deep cup to lead.

Marcinkiewicz makes a 300 series of mouthpieces with 14 or 15 cup depths - great rim but larger inside diameter and backbore than your 9.1
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Goby
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby Shew himself recommends the Bach 10.5C to a lot of players. The scans available publicly on VennCAD show that the 10.5C rim is very similar to the Shew 1.5, with a bit more of a drop from the rim into a deeper cup. This is probably the most economical and timely option for replacing your 1.5C.


If you were to go the custom route, I don't think you necessarily need (or want) the exact same rim on a "classical" mouthpiece, as the playing demands are much different from what the Shew is designed for. If your goal is a refined sound and percussive articulation, a rim designed for high-pressure and high-volume playing in a genre where the concept of articulation is radically different is probably not going to be the right fit, no matter what cup is attached to it.


On the off chance that you're suffering from muscle/embouchure fatigue or injury, taking a short break from playing may help you heal and regain the ability to play without pain. Of course, more information on what exactly your problems are with the 1.5C would be helpful.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might sound a bit silly but why can't you just use the mouthpiece that you have now?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the off chance you are not aware, there is a mpc comparator available here:
https://trumpet.cloud/mpc/

Here is that site's comparison of Marc. E 9.1 Shew vs. Marc. 10 1/2 C
https://trumpet.cloud/mpc/index.html?mpc1id=VA008300&mpc2id=VB008200
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