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Subtropical and Subpar
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:00 pm    Post subject: King Silvertone tuning slide question - Reply with quote

Probably a dumb question but hey, it's the internet! So I lucked into a really mint condition circa 1932 King Silvertone cornet. It has an asymmetrical tuning slide and no obvious markings for which end is which. So... which end is which? Does the longer bit of the tuning slide go towards the mouthpiece receiver or towards the valve block? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it one of these?

https://www.saxophone.org/museum/publications/id/81

Go to Page 5


You might measure the inside diameter of both tubes. If they are of different diameters, the smallest inside diameter goes closest to the leadpipe.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy Cooper wrote:
Is it one of these?

https://www.saxophone.org/museum/publications/id/81

Go to Page 5


You might measure the inside diameter of both tubes. If they are of different diameters, the smallest inside diameter goes closest to the leadpipe.


It is a Silvertone as opposed to a Master, but otherwise yes, my horn is identical in wrap, profile, and appearance to the King Master at the bottom on page 5 of your link. I'm not sure I have the tools to accurately measure the inside of the slides, though.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subtropical and Subpar wrote:
I'm not sure I have the tools to accurately measure the inside of the slides, though.


Something like a regular Sharpie marker pen - insert the end opposite of the marker felt - mark the amount of insertion with another pen. Compare it to the other slide. A Sharpie ranges from about .400 to .484 so it should measure any cornet. If the slide is shorter than the pen, you might need to sacrifice the Sharpie by cutting the pen off to fit. If the tubes are the same inside diameter and the tuning slide can be inserted either way, then it doesn't matter.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of these horns, including the pre-WWII one I had from my uncle for many years until my cousins got old enough to play it and shipped it out to them, has a threaded knurled stop on one leg of the main tuning slide. then you can match it to the outer slide tube that has the threads.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The long side goes on the lead pipe side and the short on the bell side. The Master or Silvertone are the same.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrpbrass wrote:
The long side goes on the lead pipe side and the short on the bell side. The Master or Silvertone are the same.


That sounds definitive to me; thanks very much! I will now... put it in the right way
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