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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
"I kind of like the site the way it is. It tends to discourage juveniles."
God forbid we should include young people and fresh ideas.

HA! That gave me a laugh!

But I think you know what I mean. For example, if you are able to "like" posts which seems to be something that the younger folk crave. Then you just get a bunch of posts designed only to generate likes that offer no other value and a group of people only dedicated to liking each other's posts.

I don't have any problem with new ideas. I am just not interested in hundreds of posts about "I'm a high school senior and can only play 20 double C's before I have to rest 10 minutes. How can I improve??"

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This site evidently uses phpBB 2.0.x which was released in the early 2000s and which has since racked up hundreds of security vulnerabilities. The developers of phpBB officially ended support for phpBB 2.0.x in January 2009, shortly before the mobile web revolution really took off.

phpBB 3.3.x allows for posts to have image "attachments", which would remove the need to use third-party image hosts and would keep better historical record of TH posts.

The site owners should work with their web host and/or someone knowledgeable to:
1. FIRST — backup the entire site. Don't do anything else until you have backed up TH fully.
2. Upgrade the server's PHP version to at least 7.2.0 (and follow other important server-side requirements).
3. Follow the steps in this documentation to upgrade to phpBB 3.3.x.

Best of success on this upgrade, should you choose to do so!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chadwick wrote:
phpBB 3.3.x allows for posts to have image "attachments", which would remove the need to use third-party image hosts and would keep better historical record of TH posts.

Storing images and attachments costs money. Using a third party host doesn’t add cost for TH’s owner.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is woefully out of date and doesn't always get along well with some of the newer browsers, but I decided long ago that wasn't going to change here. I think I even asked a similar question about it being updated years ago, and nothing changed.

So, yeah, it looks dated, but it works most of the time, and oddly, seems fairly stable despite the long number of new security threats since this code was 'current' instead of an 'antique' in 2024.

But, it works, and it's the people and conversations here that really matter, so... build a better mousetrap, or enjoy this one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all:

Thanks for the discussion on the site and its current implementation.

There is a plan in-place to upgrade the site and that process is partially complete. It has been much slower than I would like - it has been hard to find the necessary time to accomplish the work.

However, the upgrade is to include:

1) Updating the software running the forum itself, likely to the latest version of PHPBB but that's not set in stone.
2) Adoption of a responsive format which plays nicely on mobile devices, which currently comprise 40-60% of the site's traffic.
3) Feature additions to the Marketplace section.
4) Miscellaneous enhancements and graphic overhaul.

I can only apologize for the length of time it has taken me to complete this work. Perhaps I need to simply take a week off the dayjob and dedicate that to completing this. I'm optimistic that user experience will improve substantially when I'm done! I've been running this site since 1996 and don't plan to stop now.

Thanks for the interest.

Best,
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpetherald wrote:
I can only apologize for the length of time it has taken me to complete this work. Perhaps I need to simply take a week off the dayjob and dedicate that to completing this.

As I said once before in another thread, you don't need to apologize; we need to reiterate our sincere gratitude for your dedication and generosity.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halflip wrote:
As I said once before in another thread, you don't need to apologize; we need to reiterate our sincere gratitude for your dedication and generosity.

+1.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpetherald - no need apologize, it’s tough to work a day job AND manage a website, AND work up a major upgrade. Thanks for all you do.

Another +1,
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpetherald wrote:
Hi all:

Thanks for the discussion on the site and its current implementation.

There is a plan in-place to upgrade the site and that process is partially complete. It has been much slower than I would like - it has been hard to find the necessary time to accomplish the work.

However, the upgrade is to include:

1) Updating the software running the forum itself, likely to the latest version of PHPBB but that's not set in stone.
2) Adoption of a responsive format which plays nicely on mobile devices, which currently comprise 40-60% of the site's traffic.
3) Feature additions to the Marketplace section.
4) Miscellaneous enhancements and graphic overhaul.

I can only apologize for the length of time it has taken me to complete this work. Perhaps I need to simply take a week off the dayjob and dedicate that to completing this. I'm optimistic that user experience will improve substantially when I'm done! I've been running this site since 1996 and don't plan to stop now.

Thanks for the interest.

Best,
-td


As a relative newcomer to this site, first, thank you. It's been very helpful/educational to me, so I appreciate your doing this and providing this site.

Second, for those of us who have been coders, webmasters, website designers and managers, etc., is there anything we can do to help with the upgrade, site management, etc.? As a former webmaster/designer/coder who once ran multiple enterprise sites for a global tech company, in addition to numerous other websites on the side that I was responsible for (church, scout troop, several small businesses), yes, I know the amount of time this takes, especially when it's being done on top of a day job. I'm sure there a lot of users here who would be glad to help offload some of the burden of managing this site.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny, I was just thinking this morning how solid and efficient this site is compared to some other sites I visit (not related to trumpet playing).

To do a search I just type the topic along with the words trumpet herald in my browser and numerous relevant posts pop up. Ineffective search engines seem to be typical on most sites anyway.


Whatever changes are made, please do not introduce a like or fave feature for individual comments. On the baseball blog I visit, it just encourages people to try to make themselves popular, and becomes a distraction.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhondo wrote:
Funny, I was just thinking this morning how solid and efficient this site is compared to some other sites I visit (not related to trumpet playing).

To do a search I just type the topic along with the words trumpet herald in my browser and numerous relevant posts pop up. Ineffective search engines seem to be typical on most sites anyway.


Whatever changes are made, please do not introduce a like or fave feature for individual comments. On the baseball blog I visit, it just encourages people to try to make themselves popular, and becomes a distraction.


You also get responses regarding whatever icon you used to comment. Good until these turn negative.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been enjoying this site for 22 years and hope to continue. Looking forward to the upgrades.

I've found when I want to search for something specific on the site, it's easier to Google it, (i.e. "topic trumpet herald" than use the search tool, but other than that I have no complaints.

I sometimes visit Trombone Chat. Doesn't hold a candle to TH.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitvalve wrote:
I've been enjoying this site for 22 years and hope to continue. Looking forward to the upgrades

I've found when I want to search for something specific on the site, it's easier to Google it, (i.e. "topic trumpet herald" than use the earch tool, but other than that I have no complaints.

I sometimes visit Trombone Chat. Doesn't hold a candle to TH.

If you add “site:trumpetherald.com” Google and the other generic search engines will limit the search to this site.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My search if I wanna read comments about Olds Recording trumpets, as an example:

Olds Recording trumpet herald

No quotation marks, just as above into the browser. Don’t really even need upper case letters on olds recording… At least a dozen trumpetherald threads pop up.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current Trumpet Herald is about the only site I can still access with my generation 1 iPad that Apple stopped updating in 2011 with OS 5.something. (Current OS is 16 or 17, I think)
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitvalve wrote:
I've been enjoying this site for 22 years and hope to continue. Looking forward to the upgrades.

I've found when I want to search for something specific on the site, it's easier to Google it, (i.e. "topic trumpet herald" than use the search tool, but other than that I have no complaints.

I sometimes visit Trombone Chat. Doesn't hold a candle to TH.


Yes it does not.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhondo wrote:
Whatever changes are made, please do not introduce a like or fave feature for individual comments. On the baseball blog I visit, it just encourages people to try to make themselves popular, and becomes a distraction.


Fully agree!

LinkedIn is a perfect example of doing it wrong like that (unless your ultimate goal is to be bought out by Microsoft...). LI added numerous "features and upgrades" and now it's nothing more than a quasi-business version of Facebook. Games, memes, baby pictures, likes, and all sorts of other things that are not relevant to the business user populate that site, which is why I hardly go on it anymore.

So yes, please keep this focused on all topics trumpet and keep the other junk out of it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhatheway wrote:
Rhondo wrote:
Whatever changes are made, please do not introduce a like or fave feature for individual comments. On the baseball blog I visit, it just encourages people to try to make themselves popular, and becomes a distraction.


Fully agree!

LinkedIn is a perfect example of doing it wrong like that (unless your ultimate goal is to be bought out by Microsoft...). LI added numerous "features and upgrades" and now it's nothing more than a quasi-business version of Facebook. Games, memes, baby pictures, likes, and all sorts of other things that are not relevant to the business user populate that site, which is why I hardly go on it anymore.

So yes, please keep this focused on all topics trumpet and keep the other junk out of it.

Fully disagree!

It would be lovely to have a small easily ignored number instead of multiple posts cluttering up the forums saying plus one.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LittleRusty wrote:
rhatheway wrote:
Rhondo wrote:
Whatever changes are made, please do not introduce a like or fave feature for individual comments. On the baseball blog I visit, it just encourages people to try to make themselves popular, and becomes a distraction.


Fully agree!

LinkedIn is a perfect example of doing it wrong like that (unless your ultimate goal is to be bought out by Microsoft...). LI added numerous "features and upgrades" and now it's nothing more than a quasi-business version of Facebook. Games, memes, baby pictures, likes, and all sorts of other things that are not relevant to the business user populate that site, which is why I hardly go on it anymore.

So yes, please keep this focused on all topics trumpet and keep the other junk out of it.

Fully disagree!

It would be lovely to have a small easily ignored number instead of multiple posts cluttering up the forums saying plus one.


Sounds like much time consumed trying to evaluate numbers in an attempt to decrease postings of the shorthand “+1”…
Net effect: More clutter! 🙂
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2024 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhondo wrote:
LittleRusty wrote:
rhatheway wrote:
Rhondo wrote:
Whatever changes are made, please do not introduce a like or fave feature for individual comments. On the baseball blog I visit, it just encourages people to try to make themselves popular, and becomes a distraction.


Fully agree!

LinkedIn is a perfect example of doing it wrong like that (unless your ultimate goal is to be bought out by Microsoft...). LI added numerous "features and upgrades" and now it's nothing more than a quasi-business version of Facebook. Games, memes, baby pictures, likes, and all sorts of other things that are not relevant to the business user populate that site, which is why I hardly go on it anymore.

So yes, please keep this focused on all topics trumpet and keep the other junk out of it.

Fully disagree!

It would be lovely to have a small easily ignored number instead of multiple posts cluttering up the forums saying plus one.


Sounds like much time consumed trying to evaluate numbers in an attempt to decrease postings of the shorthand “+1”…
Net effect: More clutter! 🙂
yes, posts like this saying “I fully (dis)agree” create more clutter. Much better to have an easy to implement and easily ignored number.
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