• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Marching band alumni?



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> The Lounge
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
rhatheway
Veteran Member


Joined: 02 Apr 2024
Posts: 265

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 6:24 am    Post subject: Marching band alumni? Reply with quote

I live in Texas, where Friday night football is king. And going hand-in-hand with that is the marching band, the drum lines, the flag squads, the cheer leaders, the drill team, etc. In other words, football games are a big deal down here and we all grow up with them, look forward to them, and participate in them in some form or another. I also lived up in New England for a few years and noticed that football and marching bands and everything else is not as big a deal up there as it is in the south (at least not in high school, in college it's a bit more, but still not as big as in the south). Soccer, hockey, basketball, yes, but not football.

So my question is, how many of us here on TH are marching band alumni in the south and know the joys of marching practice on asphalt fields in the depths of summer when it's 100 degrees outside, memorizing and marching a show, playing music, trying to stay in tune while marching, trying to hear the other band members to stay in sync, trying to remember when and where to march, when and where to stop, and all the other things that go along with putting together and marching a show?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kehaulani
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 9185
Location: Hawai`i - Texas

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the Univ. of N. Texas (UNT) marching band and hated it. I'm glad you enjoyed it. What I really didn't like in Texas was that you couldn't audition and qualify for Concert Band unless you had marched. These were educational institutions and couldn't understand how this extortion was compatible with that. Whatever.

I transferred to UNT from the University of Hawai`i (UH). At that time, in Hawai`i, the only schools that had marching bands were the schools who's concert program couldn't stand on it's own. I now reasise how much comradery, leadership qualities, etc. came to many who participated in marching band so, I'm glad it was available to those kids who got a lot out of it. But for me, I resented this "marching band or no concert band" mentality. Seemed contrary to an academic environment.

I should add that the UH now has a vigorous Marching Band program, as well as sports bands which support volleyball, basketball and other sports. Times change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxwtfc71mqk&ab_channel=UniversityofHawaiiBands
_________________
"If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker

Adams A-9 Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Getzen Capri Cornet (for sale).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rhatheway
Veteran Member


Joined: 02 Apr 2024
Posts: 265

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
I was in the Univ. of N. Texas (UNT) marching band and hated it. I'm glad you enjoyed it. What I really didn't like in Texas was that you couldn't audition and qualify for Concert Band unless you had marched. These were educational institutions and couldn't understand how this extortion was compatible with that. Whatever.


Yeah, that's true... My guess it's that way because in Texas, ALL band activities end up being related, so having that comradery you mentioned is important across all the various bands (marching, concert, jazz, etc.). Having all band students "suffering" together in marching band pulls them closer together so that they're a tigher unit in the other bands.

Besides, there's tons of great memories of trips and craziness and everything else that goes along with being in a marching band!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kehaulani
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 9185
Location: Hawai`i - Texas

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhatheway wrote:
Besides, there's tons of great memories of trips and craziness and everything else that goes along with being in a marching band!

Yes. There was that trip to Wichita when I made an alcoholic-induced hit on my fiancé's best friend (duh), froze my ever-lovin' @ss off on the marching field, and heard THE Lou Marini jamming to the Beatles' "Can't Buy Me Love" in a boxcar. (First time I had heard a serious jazz musician playing rock.)

All I remember about the rest of marching band season was post-rehearsal Bacardi sessions under the stands with my roommates (also trumpet players) .
_________________
"If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker

Adams A-9 Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Getzen Capri Cornet (for sale).


Last edited by kehaulani on Wed May 08, 2024 9:58 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JayKosta
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 24 Dec 2018
Posts: 3379
Location: Endwell NY USA

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, did marching band in HS - mid 60's, Cleveland Ohio area.
I enjoyed it.
Summer 'Band camp', bus trips, parades, football games, etc.
_________________
Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mark Leccese
Regular Member


Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 22
Location: Boston, Massachusetts USA

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played in marching bands in high school and college up here in New England and know the joys of freezing cold mouthpieces, marching and playing while wearing four layers of clothing and sitting (and sitting, and sitting) in the stands in 20 degree weather waiting to play "charge" or the school's fight song.

When I went to Big State School I signed up for marching band to meet girls. (It worked and I have fond and gauzy memories of a flute player).

I showed up the first day and when I got to the head of the line they asked me what instrument I played.

"How many trumpet players do you have?" I asked.

"Thirty-five."

I thought for a second and said, "I play baritone horn."

"You do? That's great! We need baritone players!"

"Well I play baritone." Pause. "Um, do you have a baritone horn I could borrow?"

They did, and I played baritone in the marching band, the basketball pep band, and the concert band. It was great fun.
_________________
-- Mark L. from Boston
Schilke B1
Conn Constellation 38B
Yamaha YFH-8310Z Flugelhorn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mafields627
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 09 Nov 2001
Posts: 3783
Location: AL

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four years in high school, four years in college (two years at Samford in Birmingham and two year at Alabama), and next fall will be year 19 as a marching band director. I almost did a summer of drum corps, but backed out. I have a love-hate relationship with marching band.
_________________
--Matt--

No representation is made that the quality of this post is greater than the quality of that of any other poster. Oh, and get a teacher!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
huntman10
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 30 Aug 2017
Posts: 725
Location: Texas South Plains

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2024 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marched in Texas panhandle, 100 + degree summer workouts, cold blustery late season games. Hated every minute. I hate football because I was the fat kid in PE and was physically beaten by a football coach with a paddle every day for 2 years in view of the entire school in PE because he thought somehow my bad knees would magically be able to run faster if my butt was bruised. Was a different time!

Anyway, marching kept me out of PE after that. I was good enough at it and had plenty of friends there as well. Was a Music Ed major in college, got out of PE there,too, and marched. Never paid any attention to the games. Still dont.
_________________
huntman10
Collector/Player of Fine (and not so fine) Brass Instruments including
Various Strads, Yammies, Al Hirt Courtois, Schilkes,
Selmer 25, Getzen Eternas, Kanstuls (920 Pic, CG)
Martin Custom Large Bore, Lots Olds!, Conns, etc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
david johnson
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 09 Jul 2002
Posts: 1624
Location: arkansas/missouri

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the marching band - freeze/melt!! Military marching style (6 to 5 stride) was much better for me than other methods. I used it in my groups when I taught. I was visiting with Seymour Rosenfeld, after a Philadelphia Orchestra concert, and he pulled his mouthpiece from his pocket to show it to me. He used a screw-rim model with a rubberized rim. Told me his students in Philadelphia used that model when plying out in the winter for marching events.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mm55
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 01 Jul 2013
Posts: 1414

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my late sixties, retired, and looking for playing opportunities, last year I unexpectedly found myself in an Italian American marching band in the northeast. We did processions and parades at Roman Catholic feasts as well as civic parades on national, state, and even local holidays.

I had no idea what to expect. The feasts were an eye-opener. In the northeast, the feasts of saints carry on Roman Catholic traditions, mostly from Sicily. As a non-Catholic non-Italian, I was suprised at how much fun it was. During the six-hour procession of the saint (statue, banner, relic, effigy, whatever) through the old Italian neighborhood, each band had plenty of break time, where the local saint's "assocation" would provide food and wine. Plenty of food and wine. Excellent Italian food and wine.

Having marched for four years in high school, and one year at U, it all came back effortlessly after more than four decades. Keep in step, guide right, take the cue from the rolloff; it was all there in memory. But some things were new.

No rehearsals, and many of the pieces were Sicilian marches that I had never heard. Sight-reading on the street was new to me. The other new thing was getting paid to march. I had no idea! No big bucks, but definitely enough to cover travel expenses, uniform clothes, and meals.

Unfortunely, the band's manager retired the band after the first event this year. Many decades of tradition came to an end. Band members spoke of other similar bands that had folded in recent years, including what may have been the last remaining Sons of Italy marching band. The traditions are fading.

It was a fun year. I met many musicians; ages from teens to seventies. I played a bunch of brand-new music I never would have been exposed to otherwise. I had a lot of arancini and Chianti. I got some good exercise. And I would have entirely missed this experience if I hadn't marched in high school, back in the neolithic. I'm now looking to find another band to join.

Viva San'Alfio!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
iiipopes
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Posts: 566

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you count Missouri as "southern," part of the SEC now, formerly part of the Big 8, then yes, I marched sousaphone (because they had too many trumpets) with Marching Mizzou in the fall of 1983 & 1984 and had a grand time. 1983 was the last year we got to sit in temporary bleachers between the end zone and the track before being relegated to the stands. I even caught a field goal!

This is after 4 years of marching sousaphone in high school field & street in southwest Missouri, playing trumpet in concert band.
_________________
King Super 20 Trumpet; Sov 921 Cornet
Bach cornet modded to be a 181L clone
Couesnon Flugelhorn and C trumpet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cbtj51
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 24 Nov 2015
Posts: 739
Location: SE US

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Southeast Louisiana, especially in High School during the 60s, the band was much like a fraternity on a campus of other equally separate cliques and clubs. Band was the non-sports sport! Most of my friends were "in the band" and our relationships expanded into other interests as well!

Then at 14, life started to really evolve. I auditioned and got a Solo Soprano position in the very rare at the time in the South, local Drum and Bugle Corps! Many of my friends from the High School band were in Drum Corps as well and we grew even closer in an even more devoted activity. Junior Drum Corps (top age of 21) became a really exclusive club of mostly High Schoolers from all over the city with similar and diverse experiences added to mix. We grew up together... a lot! Tuesday night horn and drum rehearsals, Thursday night full corps marching and maneuvering (drill) rehearsal, marching Mardi Gras parades, performing at festivals all over the state, traveling to the Drum Corps dominant Mid-West and East Coast for competitions and to South Florida for competition with our nearest Drum Corps every summer; these were the things that dominated my teen years as a musician! My closest friends were like me, Drum Corps fanatics and we spent our leisure time together as well. Summer Girl friends (a mutually agreed upon temporary steady, well for a few months anyway, semi-serious relationship), were in the Corps as well. Several of my Drum Corps friends also served in the Army Band with me and a few of us have close relationships even today, many decades later! Life was truly very good!!!

There has always been a social (very) aspect to music from my point of view. Life IS truly very good!

Life is Short, find the Joy in it!

Mike
_________________
'71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
Reeves 41 Rimmed Mouthpieces
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kehaulani
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Posts: 9185
Location: Hawai`i - Texas

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huntman10 wrote:
I hate football because I was the fat kid in PE and was physically beaten by a football coach with a paddle every day for 2 years in view of the entire school in PE because he thought somehow my bad knees would magically be able to run faster if my butt was bruised.

I just had to laugh at that because it revived old memories for me, too. I Spent fourth grade in Texas and was shocked at the frequency of corporal punishment I saw doled out. Only saw it once in a Hawaiian school - and that was done surreptitiously and by - you guessed it - the coach. But Texas?
_________________
"If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
"Well, even if I could play like Wynton, I wouldn't play like Wynton." Chet Baker

Adams A-9 Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
Getzen Capri Cornet (for sale).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
huntman10
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 30 Aug 2017
Posts: 725
Location: Texas South Plains

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accidentally repeated.
_________________
huntman10
Collector/Player of Fine (and not so fine) Brass Instruments including
Various Strads, Yammies, Al Hirt Courtois, Schilkes,
Selmer 25, Getzen Eternas, Kanstuls (920 Pic, CG)
Martin Custom Large Bore, Lots Olds!, Conns, etc.


Last edited by huntman10 on Thu May 09, 2024 12:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
huntman10
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 30 Aug 2017
Posts: 725
Location: Texas South Plains

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
huntman10 wrote:
I hate football because I was the fat kid in PE and was physically beaten by a football coach with a paddle every day for 2 years in view of the entire school in PE because he thought somehow my bad knees would magically be able to run faster if my butt was bruised.

I just had to laugh at that because it revived old memories for me, too. I Spent fourth grade in Texas and was shocked at the frequency of corporal punishment I saw doled out. Only saw it once in a Hawaiian school - and that was done surreptitiously and by - you guessed it - the coach. But Texas?


It wasn't punishment, all I did was run slower than everyone else. It was pure meanness. The path once around the yard where several school buildings were located was 660 yards. He followed the class the whole way swatting whoever was last every 4th stride, visible to the classrooms all around the school. And not lightly.

My only regret was; that after I got out of his class and started driving, I didn't seek him out with the family's 1966 International Travellall, in order to make a pavement marker out of him.
_________________
huntman10
Collector/Player of Fine (and not so fine) Brass Instruments including
Various Strads, Yammies, Al Hirt Courtois, Schilkes,
Selmer 25, Getzen Eternas, Kanstuls (920 Pic, CG)
Martin Custom Large Bore, Lots Olds!, Conns, etc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
chef8489
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 16 Aug 2011
Posts: 870
Location: Johnson City Tn

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I marched in West Texas in the early 90s. District 4 with a 5a school back then it was a huge marching band of well over 300 members. We had over 30 trumpets typically.
_________________
Current horns
2023 Bach 19072G/43 pipe with 1st trigger
1966 H.N. White King Silver Flair
1965 H.N. White King Super 20 Sllversonic Symphony 1st trigger
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LittleRusty
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 12705
Location: Gardena, Ca

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My high school in Nebraska was overcrowded. As such school extracurriculars were able to select “the best of the best”. Our football was a perennial top contender in the state and our marching band, also a top contender, was very competitive to get into.

In addition to marching on the hot asphalt on 100° days we also got to enjoy the freezing wet and snowy conditions. Texas weather is a piece of cake compared to that.

I loved it all.

My kids’ high school in Silicon Valley had a pathetic band program including the marching band. They thoroughly enjoyed it however. The social aspects, like getting to meet all four years of students before the freshman year at summer band camp were a big plus.

My son who became Drum Major in high school and basically ran the concert band due to staffing reassignments triggered by budget cuts ended up joining Silicon Valley Vanguard cadets. (The concert band director only wanted to do jazz and allowed my son to rehearse the non-jazz numbers)

Talk about regimented. The vanguard practiced thirteen hours a day seven days a week. Every couple of weeks they would get a day or two off. We housed up to five kids each year since we had a large home and my son had/has a big heart.

I would have a full meal ready when they got to the house at ten or ten-thirty and they would devour two to three times the food I would normally serve.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
nieuwguyski
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 06 Feb 2002
Posts: 2358
Location: Santa Cruz County, CA

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huntman10 wrote:
My only regret was; that after I got out of his class and started driving, I didn't seek him out with the family's 1966 International Travellall, in order to make a pavement marker out of him.


I was born and raised on the plains of southeastern Colorado in a school system where the football marching band justified the existence of all the other music groups. Marching practices started in late August when it was frequently over 100 degrees. Football halftime-show practices were frequently on snow-covered fields (they only shoveled the field for football practices) where the director would judge our marching by how well we stepped into the footmarks in the snow from those in front.

But I'm really responding to the mention of International Harvesters, being a fourth-generation Binder owner. My first vehicle was a 1965 IH half-ton, purchased from my uncle. My older brother inherited my father's 1962 Travelall. Massively heavy engines and inadequate four-wheel drum brakes... I'm lucky I never hit anything/anyone and luckier I never had the justification.
_________________
J. Notso Nieuwguyski
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Man Of Constant Sorrow
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 25 Jun 2023
Posts: 512

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2024 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hated "marching band (football game specific)".

TRUE marching band was (to me) PARADE band. We were a crack parade marching band. Won 1st-place literally everywhere ... traveled a great deal as a result.
Our band was not too shabby as a football pep-band / marching-band, too (we were VERY good) ... but, I loathed it. Played 1st-trumpet. Lotsa Sousa numbers ... v difficult to play upper-register 8th and 16th notes while marching in-step, executing formations, etc.

"Prepared me" for what?

_________________
Sub-Optimal Hillbilly Jazz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> The Lounge All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group