Flugelhorn recommendations

[Lohu]

I'm a first-time would-be flugelhorn owner so am looking for recommendations. I can't afford the top notch instruments but have found a couple of starters that are possibilities...
John packer 275
Bach fh501
Jupiter 846
Or a 1970s/80s getzen eterna (pre-trigger)
Would appreciate your thoughts!

[gord-o]

I would add the current Eastman flugelhorn to your list. Several of my local schools have them, and they play really well. Getzen is good also. I would pass on the Bach FH501 - it just has a cheapness about it. Can't comment on the others.
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Popplers Music

[jengstrom]

I believe the Jupiter is a copy of the Yamaha 631. If you can find one for a reasonable price, it’s an OK horn. However, if you can afford it I think any of the Yamaha models used would be a very good choice.

John
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Bach 72*
Bach Chicago C
Yamaha YTR-761 D/Eb
Kanstul 1525
Bach 196 picc

[jondrowjf@gmail.com]

All the flugelhorn may suit your needs. Are you buying from a local music store or online? If possible try it before you buy it. With an online store check their return policy, shipping and restocking fee.
ACB, Getzen , Josh Landress, and The Mighty Quinn have excellent customer service and return policies. Look at their respective websites and call and ask for recommendations for a flugelhorn. All these companies have musicians working there.
Have you considered a B stock (slightly damaged ) flugelhorn?
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Wick 3B, 4 W gold classic mouthpieces
Wick adjustable cup mute
Straight mute
Mendini tenor sax, Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
Legere synthetic reeds and some cane reeds

[gbdeamer]

I steer people to Trent Austin and his Austin Custom Brass Doubler's flugel.

https://www.austincustombrass.biz/acb-doublers-flugelhorn-our-1-selling-product-at-acb/

For people like me who only need a flugel a few times a year for church, big band, musical pit, etc, it MORE than fills the need.
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2005 Bach Strad 43*
ACB Doubler's Flugel
1948 Holton Model 48

[Lohu]

Thanks everyone ...I need to get out to try I think!

[cheiden]

ACB and Dillon both have reputable horns that they stand behind.
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Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart

[RussellDDixon]

Used Yamaha 631 !
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Yamaha 631g Flugelhorn
Nicholson Monette Prana XLT mouthpiece
Kanstul Claude Gordon Personal mouthpiece

[Bethmike]

[cheiden]

[Bethmike]

Sorry about the double paste - old guy on a keyboard. I do like my 631.
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Olds Ambassador in raw brass
Bach NY7
Yamaha 631 Flugel

[walldaja]

I've had and used a Jupiter 846S for 30yrs now. Played it last night and still love the sound and response. Sweetest one I ever sampled was a Courtois 154. The tubing running through the valve block is perfectly straight. Very even blow but much more than the Jupiter I bought.
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Dave

Sonare TRC-800, Dennis Wick 1.5C
Blessing Standard, Denis Wick 1.5C
Accent TR959 CDB C tpt Stork XM2 Studio Mstr
Jupiter 846S Flug Schilke 18F
Shires Q30GR T-bone 5 / 4 CL
Yamaha YBL-421G T-bone 2 CL
Jean Baptist Euphonium Stork 4

[Mr. Jones]

Yamahas are a solid choice when it comes to flugelhorns. There are so many great models to choose from, and they’re well-known for their quality and reliability.

The Yamaha 631G is a fantastic flugelhorn with its rich, warm tone and smooth playability—it’s a favorite among players of all levels. The Yamaha 731 is another excellent option, offering versatility and a great balance of tone and response. Even the Yamaha YFH-2310 (their student model) plays remarkably well for its price point and is worth considering if you're on a budget.

If you’re leaning toward Yamaha, you’re unlikely to go wrong. Their craftsmanship and consistency really shine in the flugelhorn lineup!
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Mr. Jones

Bb Bach 37, Pre-Strike
Bach 5B, Gold Rim, 24 Backbore
Kanstul Flugelhorn, 1525,Bach 7C Flugel Mouthpiece

[Trumpjerele]

The Yamaha 631 flugelhorn is very difficult to find second-hand for less than 1,200 euros. I have seen the 2310 between 500 and 700 euros.
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Trumpet: Yamaha 8310Z
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Sax tenor: Yamaha YTS 23
Mouthpiece: Otto link tone edge

[Brassnose]

My first flugelhorn was a Yamaha 231S (the predecessor of the 2310). Played it for about 25 years before I bought the K&H in the sig. While I did like the playability and the sound, intonation was really (!) squirrelly. Not sure this is the case with the 2310, but might be a point to check.
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1977 Conn 6B
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[Lohu]

Thanks everyone for your advice, really appreciate it

[jpthomas]

Completely agree and endorse ACB. Good horn for the money and limited use.

[cheiden]

[RC Horn]

I bought the Dillon Rose Brass flugelhorn and also the brushed Phosphor Copper version on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186450690640

The two horns appear to be from the same manufacturer. Different valve caps and finger buttons, and that's about it.

Intonation is great on these horns, also the slotting. They are fairly heavy horns, which may (or may not) explain why the notes lock in so well.

I did swap out the valve springs for Yamaha springs, which have a lighter action.

[Dayton]

A (used) Yamaha 631 would be my recommendation as well. Good luck!