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Dublin_Tpt
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 Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:11 pm Post subject: Mahler 1 |
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| I'm currently playing trumpet 1 for Mahler 1, and unfortunately, I have to play it on Bb. I think this is such a wonderful symphony because I can feel the story that it tells. There are fantastic moments for the trumpet in this work, however, I like the duet part in the 3rd movement because it's just very beautiful. I think the mute changes are hard but do-able. Thats my opinion on it, does anyone have another opinion or insight on the symphony? |
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bagmangood
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there's a couple of tricks for the quick mute switches I've seen/used:
- if there's someone available to double, have them do the muted/unmuted part (only some of the switches are reasonable this way)
- build/get a device for quick mutes switches - I have a straight mute screwed into a flexible cable that I clip onto a stand. Makes the switches a lot easier when they're just leaning forward.
- get really good at fast swap in and out - holding the mute in the crook of the knee can enable a pretty fast swap.
Other bits of advice:
- make sure you can play the fanfares in the first movement at a variety of tempos AND also get a sense for what the conductor is going to do (which uhh ... can vary from playthrough to playthrough)
- take the horn off the face whenever you can - it is definitely a blow by the last page!
Enjoy - it really is a lovely piece of music.
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hplpII
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| Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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A couple more tips.
Assume that the orchestra has not booked 3 extra trumpets for the offstage fanfares in the first movement. In that case you will need to send your 2nd, 3rd and 4th players off to play the three parts in those. They will have time to get back onstage before their next entry. You need to stay onstage to play the delicate solos that come quite soon after.
In the last movement, make sure you and your section pace yourselves on the last page or so. All too often the section has blown itself out halfway through and has nothing in reserve for the final climax, which is disappointing for the audience.
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Andy Del
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| hplpII wrote: | A couple more tips.
Assume that the orchestra has not booked 3 extra trumpets for the offstage fanfares in the first movement. In that case you will need to send your 2nd, 3rd and 4th players off to play the three parts in those. They will have time to get back onstage before their next entry. You need to stay onstage to play the delicate solos that come quite soon after. |
Almost. The 3 players off stage also need to be playing in time, so if the sight lines are not there, you may need to have someone to act as a conductor.
Also, make sure the #$%^*% bass players do NOT leave their gig bags right at the side of the stage with a phone on and not muted. Had that happen - the sudden loud ringing startled us and the 3rd fanfare went off to never never land.
The idea of a mute howlers for movement 4 is really good - last time this was a godsend, when trying to wrangle a rotary trumpet…
Cheers
Andy
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lclebsch215
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| hplpII wrote: | A couple more tips.
Assume that the orchestra has not booked 3 extra trumpets for the offstage fanfares in the first movement. In that case you will need to send your 2nd, 3rd and 4th players off to play the three parts in those. They will have time to get back onstage before their next entry. You need to stay onstage to play the delicate solos that come quite soon after.
In the last movement, make sure you and your section pace yourselves on the last page or so. All too often the section has blown itself out halfway through and has nothing in reserve for the final climax, which is disappointing for the audience.
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It is typical for trumpets 1, 2, and 3 to go offstage to play. Not 2-4 but that is of course up to the principal, I guess. |
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Dublin_Tpt
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Okay so currently we do not have an assistant, So we all 3 have to go back and play the fanfares, we do them on the faster side of the tempo. I am curious about one of these custom mute stands and how to make one cause it seems very helpful!
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