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trumpet1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Being a young and stupid teenager, feeling I'm invulnerable and it coun;dn't happen to me...I started to go max last night....I did it couple of time...the last one was up to Triple E...I tried to go high couple of times and blacked out...out cold until the mornig....I was kinda tired to that might be it...so...
are there any known risks to high-note-ing? |
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trickg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5675 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Years ago (1986 or 87) I read a paper about the health risks involved with trumpet playing in general. I don't know who wrote it but it did mention Bernie Glow and quoted him quite a bit.
The health risks mentioned were things like giving yourself a hernia, throwing out your back, passing/blacking out, headaches, blowing out your neck from too much pressure, certain teeth and lip problems, and I even think that it mentioned strokes and aneurisms. I've never had any of these happen to me although I still will get the occasional head rush and there were a couple of times that my vision tunnelled off and blacked out without actually passing out.
I read an article somewhere that Maynard actually had to let Bill Chase go because he kept passing out on the bandstand. It had something to do with the back pressure he was getting from the mouthpiece he was using at the time.
Keep safe dude, and try not to give so much that you give out! _________________ Patrick Gleason
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Nicholas Dyson Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:07 am Post subject: |
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I've also heard that trumpet players in general, but especially lead players are more at risk for Glaucoma. I believe it's from extra pressure in the heads and most importantly around the eyes. _________________ Nicholas Dyson
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DaveH Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I read an article - maybe about 1994 or 1995 or so - that discussed some of the dangers that might occur from the excessive build up of pressure in the head,and I think it was directed mostly to the eyes. I don't have a copy of the article and don't remember all the details, but I do remember that there were certain physical problems that could be associated with intense compression of air(I think that is the general idea). This article had been posted on the bulletin board of the rehearsal room of an orchestra that I was playing with at the time. |
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I have a teacher who blew his neck out when he was younger, he said he was playing a gig and the muscles in his neck ripped apart....his neck ballons out now like a blow fish, so he had to play a different way and it works fine for him acyually more than fine. |
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trumpet1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Gloucoma! Holy crap! what are the odds, though...? |
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Glaucoma has nice medical advantages, know what I'm saying? who really wants to read music anyway, I hate those gigs. |
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Jam_Man_Tpt Veteran Member
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 124 Location: Harrisonville/Warrensburg, MO
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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My teacher told me that Michael Brecker (I know he plays Sax and we are talking bout trumpet playing) blew a hole in his neck. Go to http://www.michaelbrecker.com and look thru his photos. You can see a big scar on his neck. My teacher also told me there was this old guy who played trombone and would jam his horn in his face to hit high notes. He one day did it and broke all of his front teeth out. These stories scare me. There is days I play and think my neck is going to explode. But it is just my mind messing with me or is it.
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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On 2002-07-18 15:50, Jam_Man_Tpt wrote:
My teacher told me that Michael Brecker (I know he plays Sax and we are talking bout trumpet playing) blew a hole in his neck. Go to http://www.michaelbrecker.com and look thru his photos. You can see a big scar on his neck. My teacher also told me there was this old guy who played trombone and would jam his horn in his face to hit high notes. He one day did it and broke all of his front teeth out. These stories scare me. There is days I play and think my neck is going to explode. But it is just my mind messing with me or is it.
Ben Love
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There is no way to tell without seeing you play, ask your teacher about it, if you don't have one get one and make sure your not hurting yourself by playing incorectly. |
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Nicholas Dyson Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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On 2002-07-18 15:28, dwm1129 wrote:
Glaucoma has nice medical advantages, know what I'm saying? who really wants to read music anyway, I hate those gigs.
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I dabble in 'preventative medicine' myself. _________________ Nicholas Dyson
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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On 2002-07-18 16:02, Nicholas Dyson wrote:
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On 2002-07-18 15:28, dwm1129 wrote:
Glaucoma has nice medical advantages, know what I'm saying? who really wants to read music anyway, I hate those gigs.
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I dabble in 'preventative medicine' myself.
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I dig it man....I'm just trying to look out for my health, too. |
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trumpet1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2002 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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blown-ou neck...scary....
and losing al the front teeth...lucky I have cusion chops and strong teeth....plus I don't jam the horn against the teeth..I jam it into the upper part of the gum so it doesn't effect my teeth... |
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walter Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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[ This Message was edited by: walter on 2002-09-20 09:22 ] |
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trumpet1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that onw....eventually they weighted her against a duck and turns out she IS a witch cuz she's lighter...heh heh...love Monty Python |
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Nicholas Dyson Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 11:10 am Post subject: |
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On 2002-07-21 21:25, walter wrote:
This all reminds me of an old Monty Python movie: Jabberwocky.
At one point, people are about to put a witch to the trial by water. Everyone is giving testimony about why the old lady is a witch and what she did to them. Then one guy says, "She changed me into a newt!", and eveyone stands there shaking their heads. After a few seconds, it's obvious that he's not a newt, so he says, "Well, she changed me back again!"
I hope that some of the stories in this thread make it to the National Enquirer. I'd like to see some of the pictures.
walter
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That would be The Holy Grail, just to clarify a bit. They happen upon the witch trial on their way to find Roger, the shrubber. (Roga tha shrubba) on a quest to find a shrubbery to apease the Knights Who Say NEEEEE!.
She is a witch, she turned me into a newt!
A Newt?!?!?
Well, I got betta.
It's so sad that I know that movie so well. This one time at band camp... _________________ Nicholas Dyson
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dwm1129 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 11:49 am Post subject: |
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We have crossed the line into trumpet geekdom. |
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Emb_Enh Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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That would be The Holy Grail, just to clarify a bit. They happen upon the witch trial on their way to find Roger, the shrubber. (Roga tha shrubba) on a quest to find a shrubbery to apease the Knights Who Say NEEEEE!.
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No... but now we are the knights who say....
"Ecki ecki ecki ecki pitang zoop boing <trails off> ni!"
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Nicholas Dyson Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Roddy,
I'm running at capacity of ocelot spleens. Thanks though.... I am looking for a supply of dried hedgehog nipples though, any help?
DWM,
We passed into trumpetgeekdom long ago, but this is an unprecedented (yeah right!) foray into regular geekdom. Sorry. _________________ Nicholas Dyson
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trumpet1 Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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trumpeters lost their innocence when they find an underground of fellow trumpeters at a board ("You mean I 'm not the best!?") |
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