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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,
--Quick Question. What is a better audition piece. The first movement of the Haydn Eb major or the first movement of the Hummel Eb major concertos.

---Or anything else that would be cool to do.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flip a coin...they're both as standard as it gets!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say the Hummel, mainly because I think that it is played less and heard maybe a bit less than the Hayden and therefore you won't be imediately compared to Wynton, Gerard or Maurice. Both concertos are great pieces to use for auditions and I've played and used the Hayden in the past. Technically, I think that the Hummel might be a little more difficult.

That's my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think it depends on what you're auditioning for, if it's for a college audition I dont suggest either one of those, you have to think how many times those judges hear those pieces get slaughtered by other players, I was thanked a number of times at my college auditions for not playing those pieces, so unless you could really do those pieces well, I suggest picking something else, just my suggestions.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I constantly see people posting how you shouldn't play Haydn or Hummel at auditions because everyone plays them.

Often, professional auditions and some colleges want Haydn or Hummel though.

I feel like the purpose of the audition is to impresse the committee with your talent. If you play the Haydn really well, they will remember it! Don't concern yourself with "other people" playing it. Play it BETTER! Play it musically!

These are great standard pieces for a judge to hear you on. There isn't a lot of quality trumpet music like there is for violin, cello, etc. Not to say Arutunian, Pahkmatova, Stevens, Hindemith aren't great.

My point is that it comes down to how YOU play it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to echo the earlier post inquiring what is the audition for? Secondly, both a great pieces in trumpet literature. Have you played through both of them? Which one do you prefer playing? Does one feel more comfortable than the other? Will you be performing with or without accompaniment?

Personally, I would play the Haydn - only because I like that concerto a little better.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good pieces to show off technique and speed would be a Characteristic Study out of the Arbans. Find your favorite one, play the hell out of it, and it would be impressing. Sometimes the best pieces are not contest pieces.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hummel allows you to show off a few more colors in your playing than the Haydn. If it's the only piece you're playing, it might be a better choice for that reason alone.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Haydn a little better but if I were playing them on Bb I might pick the Hummel. The development and recap. might be a bit nasty when playing the Haydn on Bb.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When auditioning in 1970 for the Mississippi State band, I played both. It earned me 2nd chair. It was the highest chair ever erned by an incoming freshman.

As an aside, check out the trumpet used by Doc Severinsen at his one and only performance of the Hummel, September, 2002, in Little Rock, Arkansas.

http://www.CohenBrothers.org/cohenbrothers/doc_and_me.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2002 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't shy away from playing either one. They're both great pieces of music. I'm reminded of an answer I got years ago during one of my journalistic endeavors. I asked Van Cliburn if he ever tired of playing Rachmaninoff's 2nd Piano Concerto and he fired back: "No. Do you ever tire of listening to it?"
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