Posting here

m4 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 567

The big guns seem to stay away from this section, in fact, looks form the dates, that all of the guns stay away form this section. My hope is that i may perhaps write my feelings and only the thoughtful will find thire way down here. Perhaps i am wrong.

As a college professor, and trumpet player who plays a lot all over the world, lived in NYC for twenty years, and counts major trumpet artists of my generation my friends (I'm 49,) I've seen and heard a lot over the years.

I have taken a lot of abuse in this fourm for my outspoken ditain for the jazz work of Wyntom Marsalsis. As i have qulaified many times, I feel he is a wonderfully gifted player--in the classical arena. But i was there at the beginning, as were many people, and he simply could not play jazz that was recognizable to me as jazz. He had many luckly breaks, many by record producers.

Even today, I heard a clip of Cherokke that someone posted. it was awful. First, it was too fast, he emplyed some strange type of double tounging, and it was a strained, uncmfortable performance. And if you slowed it down, one would find that the ideas of Mr. marsalsi were rudimnetary at best. He shoulod have listend to F. Hubbard palying"just one of those things" form the Hub of Hubbard if tempo was waht he was loooking for...

His winning of a Pulitzer Prize is a great embassament for jazz and a slap in the face to all of ther great living arrangers of the past; i.e Bob Brookmeyer, et al. But it is the type of thjing the public eats up

But when our own trumpet community buys this hype, it becomes truely disturbing.

I alos find tha many young palyers on this site are so unaware of the history of the jazz trumpet and make wild statements and wilder accusations when corrected.

Probably this state of affairs is in some small part due to many jazz trumpet players meeting their demise early--and in modern times, the untimely death of Woody Shaw.

m4

Michael A. Missiras, Ph.D

deleted_user_fdb91a0 · New Member Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0

When Wynton still used Bach equipment, his legit playing far exceeded his jazz playing. These days, I don't buy into much of anything that he's doing.

My .02

Dale Proctor · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Posting here

andythrush · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject:

why are you on leave this year m4?

tom turner · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:57 am Post subject:

Hi Andy,

All one has to do is read the tone and tenor of his many posts . . . and connect the dots. Of course, I suspect you've already done the dot connecting . . . just like the rest of us.

It could be a physical problem . . . it could be mental problem . . . it might be both.

Reading the writing style that's too full of errors for a healthy intellectual . . . plus noticing the obvious pain, desire for respect . . . and also the hostile frustration towards others that he exibits . . . I suspect it might be both mental and physical.

In any event, we ought to pray for the guy, and hope he gets better! Bad things can happen to good people . . . and none of us are necessarily immune from the trials and hurts of life.

Sincerely,

Tom