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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Which Freddie Hubbard records should I own? Reply with quote

Hi All,

I really enjoy Freddie. I have Hub-Tones and Red Clay.

What other Freddie records should I get to continue my Hubbard education?

Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of them. Plus sideman dates with Hancock, Shorter, Dolphy, McLean . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crzytptman wrote:
All of them. Plus sideman dates with Hancock, Shorter, Dolphy, McLean . . .


Ha ha, OK, but in what order?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ready for Freddie, Open Sesame, Blue Spirits
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find it, "Mel Lewis and Friends" from 1976. Features Freddie, Ron Carter, Hank Jones, and Michael Brecker. Freddie's solo on "Sho' Nuff Did" is a model of how to construct a solo around a particular motif.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p76 wrote:
crzytptman wrote:
All of them. Plus sideman dates with Hancock, Shorter, Dolphy, McLean . . .


Ha ha, OK, but in what order?


In the following order IMHO: all sideman gigs with Wayne Shorter because Master Wayne is THE MAN (see my avatar).
Speak No Evil: Wayne Shorter, All Seeing Eye: Wayne Shorter, Soothsayer: Wayne Shorter, then Maiden Voyage: Herbie Hancock.

also Empyrean Isles: herbie and Blues and the Abstract Truth: Oliver Nelson, Caravan: Art B. & the Jazz Mess., Ugetsu: AB & the Jazz Mess., the two VSOP Quintet recordings.....

that's enough for now.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Blues and the abstract truth, (one of the best records ever),
The artistry of Freddie Hubbard (with a great John Gilmore)
Empyrean Isles (Freddie on cornet if I remember well),
Caravan (A.B. and J. mess.)

forget the rest.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorites are...

Empyrean Isles (yep, he's on cornet)
Speak No Evil
Maiden Voyage
Ready for Freddie
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Live at Warsaw 1991 is a pretty ballsy recording!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another great Jazz Messengers disc with Freddie is "Mosaic".

"Live From Europe" (1969) is pretty ridiculous.

Also, how about "The Body and the Soul"? Lots of Wayne Shorter arrangements and Freddie playing with everything from small group to big band to strings. The second cut (Black Orpheus) is one of my all time favorite Freddie solos.

Let us know what you get!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ha ha, OK, but in what order?

It doesn't matter. My first album was "In Concert" with Stanley Turrentine, Hancock, DeJohnette, Gale, Carter. I think my next was "Liquid Love". He was with CTI then, so I bought every new thing he was on. Red Clay, First Light, Super Blue, Windjammer, Backlash . . . eventually got into the early years. Don't forget "Sing Me a Song of Songmy".
In standard rotation in my car are:
Ready for Freddy
Blue Spirits
Speak No Evil
Blues and the Abstract Truth
Out to Lunch
Red Clay
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xenoman wrote:
My favorites are...

Empyrean Isles (yep, he's on cornet)
Speak No Evil
Maiden Voyage
Ready for Freddie


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mel Lewis & Friends
Maiden Voyage

Two of my favorite recordings...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have pretty much every Freddy recording available and have spent years studying and playing along with his solos. All the above are great suggestions, here are a few things that stick out in my mind:

1. Ready for Freddy: His uptempo blues solo on Byrdlike should give you lots of great lines to ingest. What is great about Freddy in my opinion is not the lines he uses per se, but more HOW he delivers them that really makes him unique. As with any jazz solo, learning to play it without the written solo first will help make a lasting imprint on your brain, although transcribing the solo after will add to your understanding of how Freddy relates to the harmony.

Blues and the Abstract Truth: Another great album in which Freddy really starts to take off.

My 2 personal favorites are:

Doin Alright with Dexter Gordon. Anyone interested in strenghtening their understanding of Ryythm Changes could spend a full year playing the solos over this tune. Dexters lines are classic and long, with lots of interesting variety. While Freddies solo starts off with a relaxed, almost lazy groove, his second chorus is one of the most amazing displays of tension and release Ive ever heard. His mastery of the Dom7 bebop scale and how to displace it are incredible!

The other album is from his CTI days: Keep your Soul Together, with George Cables, Ron Carter, Junior Cook and co. Amazing soulful playing all around, but check out Freddys solo on Briggette. Its a ballad that turns into a slow straight ahead swing tune, his solo should be written in Stone, I have strived to get his conviction and delivery in every solo I play.........not an easy task!!

My best to you and keep swinging!!!
Ed

2. After many years of going over and over these solos, I realized that he uses 2 scales more than any other: The Dom7 bebop and Diminished Whole Tone scales. Again, HOW he uses them in combination with his other licks and phrases is worth spending a lot of shed time on!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the above.
And add my fav: "Super Blue" Not sure why cats don't like this record, but I love it and it's got some great Freddie tunes and playing.
Also the 3 VSOP albums are great, although the first one is impossible to find on cd. Anyone got one they want to burn for me?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And add my fav: "Super Blue" Not sure why cats don't like this record, but I love it and it's got some great Freddie tunes and playing.

I have Freddie's autograph on my album cover.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately, i've been really digging: The Trumpet Summit Meets the Oscar Peterson Big Four.

Not only do you get Freddy, but Clark Terry and Dizzy all playing together.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slide911 wrote:
Lately, i've been really digging: The Trumpet Summit Meets the Oscar Peterson Big Four.

Not only do you get Freddy, but Clark Terry and Dizzy all playing together.


Great album. I still have it on Vinyl. Haven't listened to it in a few years, but yes a great album.

Three albums that I keep going back too for Freddie are:

Oliver Nelson - "Blues and the abstract truth." Freddie's solo on Stolen Moments is out of this world; IMHO, quite possibly one of his best.

Herbie Hancock - "Maiden Voyage." Likely my first introduction to Freddie.

Wayne Shorter - "Speak no Evil." A great album with what I think are some of Shorter's greatest compositions. Stellar playing by the whole group.

Ever if you are not a big Hubbard fan, you cannot go wrong with these three albums. I think they are essential listening for any jazz fan.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slide911 wrote:
Lately, i've been really digging: The Trumpet Summit Meets the Oscar Peterson Big Four.

Not only do you get Freddy, but Clark Terry and Dizzy all playing together.


Also check out "Live w/Oscar Peterson - Face to Face"

While we are on it. Check out Clark Tarry, Jon Faddis and of course Diz's duet albums with Oscar too. Especially the one with Diz.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, frankly, that every trumpet player interested in post-bop should own the Blakey A Night At Birdland (vols 1 and 2) plus every Messengers recording with Kenny Dorham, Lee Morgan, and Freddie Hubbard. And that's just for starters.

There is not a bad recording of Freddie with the Messengers in that period.

Forced to recommend just one, I'd suggest Free for All.

As for Freddie's recordings as a leader, all the Blue Note stuff is uniformly excellent.

One recording that hasn't been mentioned that I'd also recommend is Wayne Shorter's The Soothsayer.

Along with Lee, Freddie recorded so many great albums in the 1960s that it's hard to shake a stick without knocking one off a tree. And many, many of the Blue Note recordings are available for dirt cheap as downloads.
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