*Expanding Scales - Question*

[slip0106]

Perhaps someone here can explain it "logically".

Why the "C natural" on the one from low D to high C (natural)? And ... why the "F natural" on the scale from low g to high F (natural)?

Thank you in advance,

Michael
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[Bartok]

This is what I was taught:

Gmaj -- G
F#maj - G#
Fmaj ----A
Emaj-----B
Ebmaj----C
Dmaj-----C#
C#maj-----C#
Cmaj-------D
Bmaj-------D#
Bbmaj------Eb
Amaj-------E
Abmaj------F
Gmaj-------F#
F#maj------F# - three octaves

Rest as long as you play.

So, I don't have those different notes that you have. They would then be in the wrong key!

Pretty sure there are a couple of variations on expanding!




[ This Message was edited by: Bartok on 2003-06-29 15:27 ]

[dbacon]

[ This Message was edited by: dbacon on 2003-09-23 23:11 ]

[PH]

Mr. Adam taught them to me the same way as Dave Bacon until the last one. After the Ab Major up to high F he had me do the G Major up to F natural and then finally the F# Major scale 3 octaves. Then we would ascend chromatically with 3 octave major scales unto I cashed it in.

The lowered 7ths on the D Major and G Major were just modificatins of the scale to keep the range expanding incrementally. I always use bebop dominant scales for expanding scales these days because it accomodates both the major and minor 7th steps.

[slip0106]

Great ... so ... can I assume that there have been variations of the Expanding Scales?

This would make sense, as I've been told by more than one of Bill Adam's students (Greg Neer, Charley Davis, Walter Blanton, Frank Abrahamson), that the "routine" is just a starting place. It "should" evolve & change, dependig on the player, circumsatnces etc.

Those of you that showed the different variations, are you Mr. Adams students, & is that what he presented to you?

What I've done is continue the Expanding Scales down a 1/2 step at a time, staying in what ever key the scale is in, into the pedal register, as far as I can go, so that I end up from a pedal C, to a double C.

I've also moved the Clarke Studies to after Expanding Scales ... and I don't just do #1, but every week switch to the next study ...

To those Adam students ... this sound logical to you? ... it does to me, however I've never seen Mr Adam in person, just picked brains of his students.

Regards - Michael
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[Clarion Wind]

The sheet from Mr. Adam I have has the Dave Bacon version written out. That's the only kind I've ever seen. However, I don't think it really matters. It's like arguing if you should kick over a bucket with your right or left foot. They both achieve the same end whatever little variations you use.