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Derek Watson
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Doodle Tonguing Reply with quote

Does anyone use this particular technique? I know Clark Terry uses it and I found a video that supposedly featured him explaining how, but that wasn't the case. I know it's widely used on Trombone, but cannot find much info for Trumpet. Have any of you tried this and if so what are your thoughts and experiences?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know there are a couple of books on doodle tonguing... But every time I try it just is way to sloppy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't do it much, mostly because it would take years of practice to get it to feel as natural as other styles do, and I'm not young any more. But it is much easier on low brass than on trumpet, at least for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know the names of any of those books?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trombone book but it is great.



http://www.bobmcchesney.com/doodle.html

Oodle or Doodle tonguing seems better applied to larger mouthpieces, IMO, but it is a skill that can be learned on the higher horns.....Would be rather unusual to hear Maurice Andre doodle tongue his way through the piccolo part on the Brandenberg, however.


Practice with a Harmon mute and any imperfection is amplified.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some things I've tried:

Practicing repeating "little" as quickly as possible. (littlelittlelittlelittlelittlelitle). Just speaking, not on the trumpet.

It's basically very very light double-tonguing. On the horn, I've practiced the Arban double-tonguing exercises very lightly/quickly. Also, I've found that if I puff my cheeks, I can doodle/double tongue extremely rapidly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not something you can learn from a book. Try this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF3JG6IaB7o
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tongue farther back in the mouth, away from the teeth. That's helped me more than anything. All after 50 years of concert band and orchestra and 'tuh.'
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVmm5PpGf0 Randy Brecker explains doodle-tonguing.

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4SbL0vT1Gc Dominick Farinacci explains ghost-tonguing. By the way, Dominick did some fantastic videos on Brownie's techniques.
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