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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:40 pm    Post subject: Who doesBix Beiderbecke Recordings Reply with quote

What trumpet/cornet player has the best CD playing in the style of Bix Beiderbecke? I want the sound with modern recording technology. The originals are tinny sounding.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff Hughes who is the cornet player in The Paramount Jazz of Boston. He has a beautiful singing tone!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am afraid you have to do it with the tinny sound.
Bix was an unique genius, nobody can play like him.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you, Bobby, no reason you can't look for modern role models. Personally, I'm satisfied with the old recordings, but I would find it interesting hearing any contemporary players who's sounds and styles approached Bix's.

As far as that with modern recording equipment, maybe some recordings of Jimmy McPartland, although the recording equipment would be hardly contemporary, it was certainly improved from Bix's time and McPartland was a Bix disciple.

I don't know . . . if you find any answers, let m know, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the Beiderbecke CD set put out by JSP records. The sound quality is excellent.

Listening to old recordings takes some getting used to, but the rewards for 'calibrating' your ear are great.

Andy Schumm is about the closest living player to Bix.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This box set (4 cds) of Bix and Tram has very good sound:

http://www.amazon.com/Bix-Tram-Beiderbecke-Frankie-Trumbauer/dp/B00006BT4G/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1316392614&sr=1-1[url][/url]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Who doesBix Beiderbecke Recordings Reply with quote

trumpetup wrote:
What trumpet/cornet player has the best CD playing in the style of Bix Beiderbecke? I want the sound with modern recording technology. The originals are tinny sounding.
Thanks,
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Nobody, that's why Bix was Bix.... Same goes for Louis....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bix without that sound would be like oiives without the gin.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bixtone wrote:
Andy Schumm is about the closest living player to Bix.


I was going to mention Andy as well. A fine player who is totally immersed in this style of music -- lots of video on YouTube of him with many different groups. A pretty good piano player, too!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oncewasaplayer wrote:
This box set (4 cds) of Bix and Tram has very good sound:
http://www.amazon.com/Bix-Tram-Beiderbecke-Frankie-Trumbauer/dp/B00006BT4G/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1316392614&sr=1-1[url][/url]


FWIW that is the same remastering that was referred to in this post:

bixtone wrote:
Check out the Beiderbecke CD set put out by JSP records. The sound quality is excellent.

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trumpetup wrote:
What trumpet/cornet player has the best CD playing in the style of Bix Beiderbecke? I want the sound with modern recording technology. The originals are tinny sounding. Thanks, Bobby

Nobody, that's why Bix was Bix.... Same goes for Louis....

That's true. And obvious. But what's the point? There seem to always be comments like this but IMO they leave the original question incomplete, e.g. are there such players and is it worth seeking them out, and can that be a constructive and informative thing to do or is it just a waste of time because there was only one (fill in the blank)?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Pletcher is a good bet. There are many recordings by him around, and he worked with a band called the Sons of Bix for a number of years.

Give a try to the JSP Bix set. Those recordings are NOT tinny, if played on proper equipment. They were beautifully recorded in mono. Run those through a decent stereo system and they sound fantastic!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried to imagine how Bix would have played had his career extended into 1930s, 1940s and 1950s?
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I haven't, but he did seem to have had a restless musical mind with a leaning to contemporary "classical" composers. I can't see him going into serialism but he might've moved into a Third Stream direction. He might've moved Gunther Schuler and the boys into a more intuitive and less intellectual directoin. It might've been wonderful.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

etc-etc wrote:
Jeff Hughes who is the cornet player in The Paramount Jazz of Boston. He has a beautiful singing tone!


Sounds great.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazz_trpt wrote:
bixtone wrote:
Andy Schumm is about the closest living player to Bix.


I was going to mention Andy as well. A fine player who is totally immersed in this style of music -- lots of video on YouTube of him with many different groups. A pretty good piano player, too!


Me too. I've had the pleasure of hearing Andy (and his buddy Dave Bock on trombone and tuba) play at the IAJRC mid-winter conference jam sessions in Indianapolis every January for the past few years. Andy also plays a mean piano.

One year we had both Andy and Tom Pletcher there, which was a real treat.

Andy always brings a 1920s Conn Victor 80A to play on.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the best Bix revival.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwTR2ycDGE&list=FL_2GzzmJ3lBv3eLPXeZkfqA&index=213

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH8yvL2V7Xo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIDhCTM1zY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIDhCTM1zY&feature=related

I realy watch those videos every day.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dig Randy Sandke.

Randy Sandke meets Bix Beiderbecke is a really good album and worth a listen. He is a New Orleans guy and can really swing.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

giakara wrote:
Some of the best Bix revival.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwTR2ycDGE&list=FL_2GzzmJ3lBv3eLPXeZkfqA&index=213

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH8yvL2V7Xo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIDhCTM1zY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIDhCTM1zY&feature=related

I realy watch those videos every day.

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Great stuff! No fair bringing Warren Vache in! Really enjoyed that, thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

giakara wrote:
Some of the best Bix revival.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwTR2ycDGE&list=FL_2GzzmJ3lBv3eLPXeZkfqA&index=213

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH8yvL2V7Xo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIDhCTM1zY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrIDhCTM1zY&feature=related

I realy watch those videos every day.

Regards

Yes these are GREAT!
I'm enjoying the other suggestions too.
Thanks,
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the sound and the horns that the dudes plays , Warren use a long Benge cornet and the other guy probably a Boston 3 star , do you like the sound ? i belive that is how the trad jazz cornet must sound and for sure this sound you cant get it with a toilet bowl piece .

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