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Janeinpa
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:04 am    Post subject: Did I get taken? Reply with quote

I just bought a 1960 olds special on eBay for $225. It’s in good condition and I thought I was getting a deal, then I saw prices here that were lower. Did I get taken? Are older specials more desirable?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vintage horn prices are all over the place, but condition is always an important factor. If your Special is in good playing condition, I'd say that is a good price.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP: no, you didn't get taken.

Many Olds enthusiasts prefer horns made in the LA factory in the 50s but the fact is the company was still making fine instruments at the Fullerton into the mid-70s.

$225 is a good price for a 1960 Olds Special, assuming it is in good condition.

In any event you don't have to worry about getting a special mouthpiece like you do with an Olds made before 1954 because those horns had a larger than standard receiver.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="dr-pepp"]Vintage horn prices are all over the place, but condition is always an important factor. If your Special is in good playing condition, I'd say that is a good price.[/quote]

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.

[quote="jhatpro"]To the OP: no, you didn't get taken.

Many Olds enthusiasts prefer horns made in the LA factory in the 50s but the fact is the company was still making fine instruments at the Fullerton into the mid-70s.

$225 is a good price for a 1960 Olds Special, assuming it is in good condition.

In any event you don't have to worry about getting a special mouthpiece like you do with an Olds made before 1954 because those horns had a larger than standard receiver.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhatpro wrote:
In any event you don't have to worry about getting a special mouthpiece like you do with an Olds made before 1954 because those horns had a larger than standard receiver.


I knew this was for cornets. Is it true for trumpets too? I once had a 1950ish Olds Super and used regular mouthpieces- no problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may be right, SK. I've had Olds trumpets in the past but I think they were late 50s so I can't say about pre-54 trumpetss. I've definitely run into the receiver issue with pre-54 cornets.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you see a price here that was lower than $225 for an Olds Special? All the Olds instruments currently for sale on this site appear to be far more expensive. I’d say you got a super deal, be happy!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The odd Olds mouthpiece size applies to their cornets only. From serial #189611 onward, Olds cornets had standard mouthpiece receivers. That equates to sometime in 1956.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey if you thought you were taken, Ill buy your Olds from you..Ill even pay you $330!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait..$230..Im a great negotiator!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you pay less than $300 for something in good condition and isn't a student horn, it's a good deal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="american boy"]Hey if you thought you were taken, Ill buy your Olds from you..Ill even pay you $330![/quote]

Haha!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="american boy"]Wait..$230..Im a great negotiator![/quote]

So I know the special is not a student horn, but Im playing the Conn Director I got when I was a kid, from about 1967. I'm hoping the Olds Special is appreciably better. Is it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most vintage horn aficionados would agree that a Special is a higher level horn than a Director. Heck, I talked with a major symphonic player in Florida (now retired) who used a Special as his primary Bb in the orchestra! Also, the multi-material bell of the later Specials makes them among the most unique and beautiful trumpets I have seen. I had several of them years back, and still miss those beautiful bells!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've bought two from shopgoodwill.com in the last 2 or 3 years. One for $240 and the other for $228. I still have the better of the two. The Olds Special cornets go for less.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Beyond16"]I've bought two from shopgoodwill.com in the last 2 or 3 years. One for $240 and the other for $228. I still have the better of the two. The Olds Special cornets go for less.[/quote]

Do you mean the Conn Director? I wouldn’t pay $100 for one, unless you mean really old ones which apparently weren’t student cornets.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, if the horn plays well and is in reasonably good shape, I don’t think you got taken. Cheers!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janeinpa wrote:
Beyond16 wrote:
I've bought two from shopgoodwill.com in the last 2 or 3 years. One for $240 and the other for $228. I still have the better of the two. The Olds Special cornets go for less.


Do you mean the Conn Director? I wouldn’t pay $100 for one, unless you mean really old ones which apparently weren’t student cornets.


Both were Olds Special trumpets, here, and here.

The second one had worn valves but the first is good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fullerton Olds Special trumpet on shopgoodwill:
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