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Zman
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Martin Committee C Trumpets Reply with quote

Greetings,
I wanted to get a 'sense' if there were many Martin Committee C trumpets out there in trumpet land?
I am talking about a C Committee - not the later Custom horns in the Magna style.
They seem to be almostbthe same but with standard keys and a normal main slide setup vs. a reversed setup.
Anyone out there have one of these?
Anyone have idea if these were issued in different bore sizes also?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have three.

One IS an RMC (#215xxx) "Custom" model with 5" rose-brass bell and 1st-valve slide trigger. .460" bore, I think.

One is a late (?) 1940s / early 1950s (don't really care) true Committee Trumpet, with #3 X-Large bore and standard water keys.

One is an early 1950s Committee C CORNET (!) with standard water keys.

Interestingly, I play these horns A LOT, especially the little C Cornet. That is one sweet-sounding horn.

With all, mouthpiece selection is important.

"Keepers", all.

I play A LOT of C horns, BTW, and these are outstanding horns.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r2, to me, C cornet seems like the best of both worlds. At least it "looks good on paper" as is often said about ventures that often end up as underwhelming. Could you expound a bit on the C cornet? ...flavor, color, palatte? not to leave out your fave - overtones - ...perhaps within the context of the OP, in comparison to the C trumpet.
thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One is a late (?) 1940s / early 1950s (don't really care) true Committee Trumpet, with #3 X-Large bore and standard water keys.


Hi Robert,
Thanks for the info - I had a suspicion you would have at least one
The #3 bore was a surprise.

I would suspect that these horns are no where near as popular as the Bb versions except perhaps to people in the know?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting...I didn't know there were C versions of the Committee.

Anyone care to post a photo or two?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst we are all here talking......
I have seen this on a few horns now - near the serial number.
Anyone know what the stamped v or V means?

For example: Martin Eb/D Serial
http://www.trumpetgear.co.nz/Martin_Eb.html
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zman wrote:
Whilst we are all here talking......
I have seen this on a few horns now - near the serial number.
Anyone know what the stamped v or V means?

For example: Martin Eb/D Serial
http://www.trumpetgear.co.nz/Martin_Eb.html


This subject was addressed, some time ago. I can't recall if it was here on the forum ... or, a query to me, via the PM dealie

At the moment, I can't recall ....

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Martin C's Reply with quote

When I was going to school in Boston, Roger Voisin was principal with the BSO and Armando Ghitalla was the second player. Armando played on a Martin C and always had the tuning slide turned upside down, spit valve up. I'm assuming he felt the nodal point being moved made it play better and I certainly wouldn't argue with him on that. He was such a fine player and when he assumed the principal chair some members of the orchestra were worried the sound of the BSO might change from the more "French" approach. The two chamber orchestra recordings Ghitalla made on the Cambridge label [CRS 1819 and CRS2823] are worth seeking out. The Volume one is with the Boston Chamber Ensemble and Volume two is with the Chamber Orchestra of Copenhagen. Pierre Monteux conducted the Hummel free of charge I'm told on Volume one. If they have been released on CD it is a must to obtain them if for no other reason than to hear greatness on the Albrechtsberger Concerto in Eb [on Vol. one].
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Martin C's Reply with quote

Tony Scodwell wrote:
The two chamber orchestra recordings Ghitalla made on the Cambridge label [CRS 1819 and CRS2823] are worth seeking out. The Volume one is with the Boston Chamber Ensemble and Volume two is with the Chamber Orchestra of Copenhagen. Pierre Monteux conducted the Hummel free of charge I'm told on Volume one. If they have been released on CD it is a must to obtain them if for no other reason than to hear greatness on the Albrechtsberger Concerto in Eb [on Vol. one].


These are the the Ghitalla recordings I know on CD.

http://www.amazon.com/Trumpeter-Emeritus-Johann-Nepomuk-Hummel/dp/B000003J6X/

http://www.amazon.com/Armando-Ghitalla-A-Trumpet-Legacy/dp/B000VRF4EO/

And he plays on this one as well...

http://www.amazon.com/Baroque-Cantatas-Arias-Carole-Bogard/dp/B00000AFHY/

I've pondered ordering them for years...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I would share the following images.
Managed to finally get my hands on this great looking Martin Committee C Trumpet.
This is not a modification - it's the real deal.
Interestingly these play and sound much more like the Bb's than a traditional C.
In comparison to a Martin Custom C the sound is much more spread and Committee-like.
If anyone can find one I recommend you grab it if the price is reasonable.
Very nice horns!
Sorry this one is not for sale.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's what appears to be a Handcraft Committee C on Reverb at the moment. It does have some patches, so may not be an original C. Worth a peek:
https://reverb.com/item/61306433-martin-committee
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