Mouthpiece that compares to Giardinelli 10s

[vialvest]

Hi. I really enjoy the Giardinelli 10s, but I would like to experiment with a mouthpiece that compares to it to see if I find something that I like more and maybe have it made in different cupdepths. The Giardinelli may not be efficient enough for me for some of the modern lead charts? Any suggestions?

[Mark Curry]

vialvest-

Welcome to TH!

Your easiest comp to the Giardinelli 10S is going to be the Marcinkiewics Bobby Shew 1, or if you need a little more room on the undercut the Bobby Shew 1.25.

mc
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What would be close to a Giardinelli 7S?

[EdMann]

I've got a number of Giardinelli pieces and used the 10S for a number of years. I found it very efficient and a bit small for me, but hey, go smaller if you need, as Mark suggests! Actually my choice of Mark's 60M Curry was chosen because of its similarity to the Gia piece, with a better rim for me. His 40M or 40S might be the ticket.

The 7S is similar to the 7SF I have, just with a rounder rim. Same animal as the 10S, but a bit bigger, around a .650 ID if I recall.

ed

[vialvest]

Thanks for the replies I've tried the Marcinkiewicz shew models, but I am not so happy about the V cup. The C cups sparkle more and have more secure attacks for me at least.

Maybe I have to look into the Curry 40S...

[soulfire]

Marcinkiewicz shew models have V-cups? I play on a 1.75 and 1. It doesn't look or feel to me like a V-cup. I could be wrong, maybe it's just subtle, but I know a bunch of people who play on them, all pros and semi-pros, I've never heard them refer to the Marc. Shew line as having V-cups.
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[terry horace]

Marcinkiewicz also makes a G10S model that is their verson of the Giardinelli 10S. You could also look at Kanstul's versions of the Giardinelli pieces (the GIR line). They are quite faithful reproductions of the originals and they will make you a one-piece version in the original Giardinelli blank for cheaper than the two-piece components cost.

As someone who has played Giardinelli mouthpieces for years, the guys who really know about them are Terry Warbuston, Greg Black and John Stork, all of whom worked at Giardinelli. If you have questions about your Giardinelli piece, I would talk to one of them. They will know exactly how to answer you.

[Crazy Finn]

Kanstul has scans of Giardinelli pieces in their comparator. One would presume they could spin one out for you as a custom piece.
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[vialvest]

[Hafr]

Hi. I recently gave smaller diameter mouthpieces a try and was really surprised of how right the bach 10 1/2 rim size feels(15.90 mm).
And so the safari continues.

The Giardinelli 10S has a 16.00 mm diameter and so does the Greg Black 10S(wich is supposed to be similar).
But then Marcinkiewicz G10S comes along with a surprising 16.97 mm diameter, wich is about the same as a bach 1 1/4 size, and is supposed to be nearly identical...?

Can anyone explain this? Hope the metric numbers are ok. I certantly do not get your arbitrary measurements

[James Becker]

Manufacturer’s printed dimensions can be confusing and misleading. How are we to know exactly where the measurement is taken?

For purposes of sizing our Osmun Horn rims, Bob Osmun referenced the crown, or the rim’s highest point that come in contact with your lips. Of course this is where rim contour plays an important role.

The cup diameter of a screw rim mouthpiece is much easier to define. Most typically the break point between rim and cup occurs at .100� for Bach, Giardinelli and others. However, Marcinkiewicz breakpoint is .125�. Visit our website for detailed images of our extensive Horn mouthpiece designs.

I once read an article in the Instrumentalist magazine suggested using an ink stamp pad to transfer a rim’s high point to paper and measure that. Though not as sophisticated as a digitization image, it can provide a useful sort of reference measurement.

I hope this is helpful.
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[kehaulani]

O.K., while we're on the subject, what Giardinelli compares to a 42/64 (or a .660")? Bach 6 size? Thank you.
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